Bosankoe/bosanquets

[suzard]

Hi edmund bosanquet there son was a well known musician anything about him  his nephew charles Pemell was a jazz musician in the thirties Jayne

Hi

Could you please please state what information you already have -you have asked for "anything about him"  - previously you did this then stated "I have a lot of the details"
On this site we love to help people with their research - but require more definate requests, as looking up information can be quite time consuming and is very frustrating if it turns out to be a duplicate look up for information you already have.

If it is the musical careers of Edmond Bosanquet and Charles(Charlie) Pemell you are seeking -rather than their family history -then if you put their names into a search engine you get quite a few hits


Suz

[jduggan]

Hi Suze thanks for your help with this, its mainly the Bosanquets in Jersey I am interested in, it does not help that they changed the spelling of there surname,they come from Bosankoes from Camelford in Cornwall there was a cigar maker called Joseph Bosankoe who went to Australia on his own and may have been part of the family, since my mum sadly passed away I have no one to refer to so many thanks for your time on this Jayne

[suzard]

The family which moved to Jersey only had (as far as I can see) 2 children born there . They moved to Jersey between 1853-1856
By 1881 father John had died and widowed mother Elizabeth had moved back to England and was living with son Edmond

I will post all the relevant census etc shortly

I cannot find a connection to the Cornwall family yet

Could you tell me which Cornish family they are descended from = name and y.o.b. would help

Suz

[suzard]

Just been looking at your tree on ancestry and I think you have made an error somewhere along the line

You have father of John Richard  (the one who went to Jersey) as Joseph Bosankoe b.c. 1804

then you have the father of Joseph as Richard John b.c. 1800!!!!!

I don't think he would have a son only 4 years older than him?

Suz

[jduggan]

Hi Suze I have to update a lot of the tree I work in a busy hospital I have certificates apologies for the mis match they are an interesting tree and moved about a bit my nan was a dressmaker as were some. Of the uncles and lived in the east end of London thanks for your interest Jayne

[Boso]

Hi Guys, The bosankoes mentioned in Jersey in 1851 are the correct family, John Richard was the father and was 26 at the time, he was born in 1825, his father was Joseph, who was the son of John Bosankoe and he was born in Camelford Cornwall in 1768.  He was one of at least 4 children  Elizabeth the eldest, Richard first son but second born, John, and Charles the youngest who died in Plymouth in 1818, I have a copy of his will.  John Richard died in 1884 in the stepney workhouse.  He farther ed two more children Henry Cornwall in 1864, and Rosina Alice Bosankoe in 1867.  The John aged 16 years is John Joseph who was a cigar maker, but became a master tailor. He married in 1868 Alice Susannah rogers, and they had 7 children.  I am descended directly from this male line, and can trace my name to Cornwall, and earlier to Holsworthy Devon The earliest descendant is thomas Bosanco married in 1721. Edmund was a musician and the family returned to Hackney between 1861-64 when Henry was born in Hackney.

If anyone can help with earlier ancestors of mine that would be great.

[jduggan]

Thanks for the reply, it seems they travelled a lot and tailoring was a big feature of there trade, my nan Rosina who's mother was Elizabeth Jessy Bosankoe/Bosanquet was a Tailoress in Kentish Town but she also a singer and knew Marie Lloyd, they seem a very large family at some point, I presume this makes us some sort of cousin, I would love to know where they originated from as the name Zenobya Bosanco has cropped up. Jayne

[Boso]

Hi Jayne, it's Steve, actually Elizabeth Jessey was the second daughter of John Richard named I believe after his father Joseph's second wife, the first daughter was Mary named after Joseph's first wife who died in 1830, probably after childbirth.  Joseph then married Mary's sister Elizabeth at the end of the same year 1830.  Joseph was the second son, and the third child of John Bosankoe the tailor they had at least 5 children three daughters and two sons, Anne Elizabeth, Maria Jemima, Mary Anne, and Richard John, Joseph's brother.  Joseph's father was John Bosankoe and he hailed from Camelford in Cornwall, he married Margaret Bushby, he also had two brothers, and one sister, his father was Richard and in turn his father was Thomas Bosanco, this guy was married twice, the second marriage and offspring relate to Elizabeth Jessey, and the second wife was Honnour Tardrew.
He had a son from the first wife Elizabeth Doble, and he was named John, and then a further four sons with Honnour, Thomas, Richard, William, Charles.  Richard is the direct line to Elizabeth Jessey, and it was his son John who became a tailor and moved to London.  All the Children of Thomas where born in Holsworthy Devon. 

Back to Elizabeth Jessey's father he married a hatters daughter Elizabeth Anne Robbins.  His father Joseph was a barkeeper, and perhaps this was what lead to cigar making initially.

[jduggan]

Hi is this the Steve I already know or another Steve?
Also I think were I find I come unstuck is where they have married
more than once and also some of the children have similar names
Its interesting to see that they went to Jersey to carry on the cigar
making and also had it as a family trade, I also found a travelling
Richard Bosankoe who went ot Australia noted on passenger list
as a cigar maker but he travelled alone I know some of the Pemells
migrated there so perhaps they met up, there must be other relations
around I have been in contact with Barry which has been helpful,

So we are what percentage Cornish are we then 

Thanks for your time Steve