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Re: PENHALL of South Australia
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 09 September 10 00:26 BST (UK) »
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Agatha died in 1902 and was buried in the grave with Jane Ann Bawden (eldest daughter of Henry and Eliza Penhall)

and yet by Sparretts posting she is alone in the grave  Jane that is :)

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Re: PENHALL of South Australia
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 09 September 10 00:54 BST (UK) »
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Agatha died in 1902 and was buried in the grave with Jane Ann Bawden (eldest daughter of Henry and Eliza Penhall)

and yet by Sparretts posting she is alone in the grave  Jane that is :)

Jenn

I wonder if it was because Agatha was added some years after Jane?

The Gravestone says
Jane Ann Bawden, the beloved daughter of Henry and Eliza Penhall, who departed this life January 28th 1879 aged 23 years.  Then there is a long and beautiful poem.

At the foot of the grave it says

"Also, Agatha Church, beloved Aunt of the above, who died 20th January 1902 aged 64 years"

I wonder why there is no mention of Jane Bawden's husband or her wee son on the grave?  Made me curious.

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Re: PENHALL of South Australia
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 09 September 10 01:08 BST (UK) »
The husband married again and had more children

I dont know what happened to her son perhaps someone will be able to find his death

I can add the remarriage and children if you want them

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Re: PENHALL of South Australia
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 09 September 10 01:21 BST (UK) »
The husband married again and had more children

I dont know what happened to her son perhaps someone will be able to find his death

I can add the remarriage and children if you want them

Jenn

Oh yes please Jenn.
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Re: PENHALL of South Australia
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 09 September 10 02:33 BST (UK) »
Agatha died in 1902 and was buried in the grave with Jane Ann Bawden (eldest daughter of Henry and Eliza Penhall) History Fan

The records of the MOONTA CEMETERY do not show that AGATHA CHURCH is interred with JANE ANN BAWEDEN

http://www.coppercoast.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=764

Likewise, there is not a record that I can find of the child being with her.

I do not mean to contradict your own records, merely to say there seems to be a gap in the Cemetry 's

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It is not uncommon for a person to be memorialised at one cemetery whilst being actually placed at another. I wonder if this is the case here/

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Re: PENHALL of South Australia
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 09 September 10 02:50 BST (UK) »
I would think the cemetery records are correct and as Agatha died in Adelaide, I would suggest she has only been memoralised on the headstone.  She died in hospital or place of care.

CHURCH Agatha
20 Jan 1900  64 years
Residence Gawler  Death Place Fullarton  Ade H 283/152

Unfortunately death certificates in 1900 give little information.

From South Australian Resources at the top of the board

Information on Death Certificates
1842-1907
    * Date of Death
    * Name
    * Sex
    * Age
    * Occupation
    * Usual Residence
    * Cause of Death
    * Place of Death
    * Informant

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Sorry Sue...didn't see your edit :)

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Re: PENHALL of South Australia
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 09 September 10 02:55 BST (UK) »
Agatha died in 1902 and was buried in the grave with Jane Ann Bawden (eldest daughter of Henry and Eliza Penhall) History Fan

The records of the MOONTA CEMETERY do not show that AGATHA CHURCH is interred with JANE ANN BAWEDEN

http://www.coppercoast.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=764

Likewise, there is not a record that I can find of the child being with her.

I do not mean to contradict your own records, merely to say there seems to be a gap in the Cemetry 's

Sue

Hi Sue,

The photo I have of Jane Ann Bawden's Grave is from West Terrace Cemetery Adelaide.  The two graves on the left of Jane's contain Henry and Eliza Penhall and their son Thomas and on the left of that John Penhall, nephew John Penhall, Edith Penhall and Henry Penhall.

So maybe the Moonta Cemetery Grave is another Grave for our Jane Anne Bawden.  

Is that possible do you think?  All the other data adds up doesn't it?  Same parents, dates etc.

Interesting.  I agree it does sound like buried in one and memorialised in another.
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Re: PENHALL of South Australia
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 09 September 10 02:57 BST (UK) »
I would think the cemetery records are correct and as Agatha died in Adelaide, I would suggest she has only been memoralised on the headstone.  She died in hospital or place of care.

CHURCH Agatha
20 Jan 1900  64 years
Residence Gawler  Death Place Fullarton  Ade H 283/152

Unfortunately death certificates in 1900 give little information.

From South Australian Resources at the top of the board

Information on Death Certificates
1842-1907
    * Date of Death
    * Name
    * Sex
    * Age
    * Occupation
    * Usual Residence
    * Cause of Death
    * Place of Death
    * Informant

Cheers
Cando

Sorry Sue...didn't see your edit :)



Thanks cando.

On the photo of the grave it looks like Agatha died on 20/1/1902.
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Re: PENHALL of South Australia
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 09 September 10 03:19 BST (UK) »
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The photo I have of Jane Ann Bawden's Grave is from West Terrace Cemetery Adelaide
Sorry I thought we were talking about the Moonta Cemetery...so to help make things a little clearer. Two Jane Ann BAWDEN/BOWDEN's.


Death of the Jane Ann BOWDEN in Moonta cemetery.

BOWDEN
Jane Ann
28 Feb 1879  23 years  Married  Relative John Hugh BOWDEN
Residence Moonta Mines  Death Place Moonta Mines  Dal 94/30


BAWDEN Jane Ann
Cemetery Moonta Cemetery
Section    East 15
Grave    719e
Age at Death    23 years   Date of burial 2 Mar 1879

Cheers
Cando
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