William Greer - Carnmoney Graveyard

[TheWhuttle]

Ach, you Ballyclare fowk are ayeways wintin' things done yesterday! 

If it is not in the book then maybe a memorial was erected only recently (after the NIFHS research period) or it is located elsewhere ...

[Addendum: The labelling for that plot is probably "AG2" - the 2nd letter matching the start of the surname.
 It would be nice to know what the exact connection is ...]

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I saw that details of "The Hidden Graveyard" (No. 1?) have been published by NIFHS already.

Interesting to hear about the impending publication on (No. 2?) graveyard, below the church.
This was used from (at least) the 1870s, when space ran out in the original plots.

[The one-time very unkempt nature of this area matches Michael's description better than that of the main graveyard, though it got badly overgrown also (and memorials vandalised).  There was a long ongoing issue over who should maintain these private lands (nominally the plot owners were responsible), now resolved as being the duty of Newtownabbey Council - following allocation of grants.  When I visited in 2002 the grounds had been blitzed with "Agent Orange", a powerful biocide, and all looked like a scene from Apocaplypse Now!]

Be very wary of walking in that lower area.  The mats of moss covering the paths have a habit of slipping en masse in wet weather.

[mrgreer]

Gents,

Many thanks for your help with this. The map is fascinating, so much so I'll have to get over to have a look.

As I've said earlier I'm pretty new to this and am finding it quite a struggle to gain any useful info past 1901 from Irish records. My wife's family, english, is a lot easier to research with the main site catering for virtually every type of record.

I've also had a look on the "Family Search site and found Thomas, William's brother was born in Carnmoney as kingskerswell has already stated. The thing is though I tried to get as much info from my father before his death and although we knew of another Greer son we did not know it was Thomas.

Indeed I've managed to go one step further in obtaining names for the two fathers of Robert and Mary Jane Greer who where Thomas' and William's parents.

I would however be interested in looking over the The Belfast News-Letter archives.

Is there a web site for death notices or is a PRONI held source?

[jwaugh]

Hi

I searched Carnmoney again for the Graves Captin Jock gave and found them plus two others. I am still not sure if they are yours or not.

GREER
C011
erected by Eliza Greer in memory of her husband, Henry Greer died 7 December 1878 aged 46 years and their children James Burns died 17 August 1865 aged 1 month Francis Henry died 14 November 1869 aged 3 years 4 months Henrietta died 6 January 1873 aged 6 months Eliza died 11 August 1918 the above Eliza Greer died 28 July 1915 also their son Samuel Anderson died 21 February 1941 also their daughter Margaret Burns died 10 December 1954 Martha, wife of Samuel Anderson died 26 August 1968

GREER
A002
In memory of William Greer who died 4th May 1813 aged 53 years, his son Joseph who died 23rd May 1803 aged 9 months and of his son Archie who died 15th May 1804 aged 51 years

GREER
B009
fallen stone
erected by Henry Greer in memory of his affectionate mother, Eliza who departed this life 17 August 1881 aged 50 years

John

[jwaugh]

B009

[mrgreer]

Hi John,

Sorry I think that's another line. By all accounts my family should have been in the Ardtrea area until 1860 at the earliest. The first sounds plausable, date wise, however  unless I'm missing someone and the family moved to Carnmoney earlier than previously thought then I would imagine it is unlikely. The Henry Greer would have to be a brother of the father of William Greer, Robert Greer, married in Woods Chapel 1853.

I'm told he had a brother John "Greer's Drapery Stores", Ballymena??? however I have not been able to find any trace of them apart from the marriage as yet.

I'm planning to return to the Belfast in April next year to visit remaining family so I'll have a good scout around then.

Many thanks for your help.