Can't decipher name on Scottish marraige record

[Maggie1895]

Dom, what else do you have on Jessie?    Searching Scotland census for 1861 and 1851 there are an awful lot to choose from, and you probably already have the records.     
It's not that I think her mother's maiden name is magically going to pop up on a census return, but the more we have about the family the better chance there is that something might turn up

[dom3merlin]

Dom, what else do you have on Jessie?    Searching Scotland census for 1861 and 1851 there are an awful lot to choose from, and you probably already have the records.     
It's not that I think her mother's maiden name is magically going to pop up on a census return, but the more we have about the family the better chance there is that something might turn up

Hi Maggie,

According to my sources, Jessie Helen McKenzie was born circa 1849 in Perth, Scotland. I don't have the birth registration info otherwise I would naturally order a birth certificate and hope the mom's maiden name reflected on that. The LDS vital record of Jessie's marriage (http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=fs:1771074&r=r_695271771&pn=p1) doesn't unfortunately list the parents. Interestingly Matilda did turn up on a census return when she was visiting Jessie and her husband in 1871. She is listed as Matilda B. McKenzie born circa 1821 in Ireland. This is my only clue as her origins at the moment.

I actually suspected that the Matilda's maiden name could be Black as one of her grandsons has the name Alexander Black Fraser. But then I came across the marriage certificate and saw that it obviously wasn't. Jessie's father in law, John Fraser, was however the blacksmith of Aberdeen before the family moved Edinburgh. 'Black' could then be a reference to the profession of Alex's grandfather. James was of course a brass molder and later became a Master brass caster. And his children plumbers and artisans with even a few engineers in the family even today. Then again, perhaps the x we are all seeing on the record is really a c, in which case Matilda's surname could be Blackburn rather than Bloxburn or Bloxham. What do you think?

Dom

[Maggie1895]

It must be incredibly frustrating to have sight of the name on a certificate and still not know.

I'm not a lot of help I'm afraid, I can't find any Matilda to McKenzie / Mackenzie marriages in Scotland 1840 - 1850 apart from a Matilda Crichton, and we can rule that out, and the only Irish births I can see around 1820 with a surname starting with a 'B' are Matilda Becket, christened on 18 December 1819 in Antrim and Maltilda Buckley christened on 24 July 1824 in Cork.   

Did you have any luck finding John McKenzie in the 1841 census, or Jessie and her parents in 1851?

[Maggie1895]

Dom, hopefully this will help.

On Scotland's People, if you search for a death for Jessie Fraser, other name McKenzie, in 1916 you will be able to see her death certificate.  Reference is 685/03 0221, and the registration district is Edinburgh City/Midlothian.

You may need to post that certificate on the deciphering board as well, because I could swear her mother's maiden name is given as Dooling!   It is your Jessie though, she is widowed and it gives her husband's details as well as her parents

[merryhow]

Hi Dom, IGI has a birth for a Maria McKenzie 1856 Edin. Parish, Edinburgh Parents JOHN and MATILDA BLOCKSON(ext)
          Val

[merryhow]

Hi Again,  '51 Census Edinburgh Castle

McKenzie John 40 Soldier b Morayshire
     "        Matilda 36  b Dublin
     "        John 13 b Co Down Newry
     "        Elizabeth 6 b Kings Co Birr
     "        Jessie 2 b Perth Perth

[dom3merlin]

Dom, hopefully this will help.

On Scotland's People, if you search for a death for Jessie Fraser, other name McKenzie, in 1916 you will be able to see her death certificate.  Reference is 685/03 0221, and the registration district is Edinburgh City/Midlothian.

You may need to post that certificate on the deciphering board as well, because I could swear her mother's maiden name is given as Dooling!   It is your Jessie though, she is widowed and it gives her husband's details as well as her parents

Thanks for the reference Maggie. Here is the actual image of the death notice for others. I too see Dooling listed as Matilda's maiden name. Do you think she may have remarried?

Dom

[dom3merlin]

Hi Again,  '51 Census Edinburgh Castle

McKenzie John 40 Soldier b Morayshire
     "        Matilda 36  b Dublin
     "        John 13 b Co Down Newry
     "        Elizabeth 6 b Kings Co Birr
     "        Jessie 2 b Perth Perth

Thanks Val. Looking into this now ...

Dom

[Maggie1895]

Val, that's brilliant.   I just did a quick search and if Dom wants the SP reference to get that certificate it's 685/02 0716  
So we now have the one everyone read as Bloxham or Bloxburn, you've found Blockson and I swear that it looks like Dooling on Jessie's death certificate!  Matilda is a real woman of mystery..

Edit:
Dom - just read your latest posts.   If Matilda did marry and remarry after perhaps widowhood I know the surnames can get confused but I would have expected them to be right on the children's birth certificates because she and/or John would have given the information.    On Jessie's death certificate the information is being given by someone at further remove who may not even have known her.     The problem is that as Val has found older children, and her son was born in Ireland, that's probably where the records are and I did do a search on the Irish records without any luck so far.   I suppose it's possible John was from a first marriage - there's a gap before Elizabeth then you get Jessie and Maria along within a few years.    On the other hand he was a soldier and could often have been posted away?     Still, you seem to be unpeeling the onion one layer at a time, as it were, so who know what you'll discover next..