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Noah Wheatley
« on: Monday 06 September 10 16:37 BST (UK) »
I wonder if there are two Noah Wheatley's.
The Noah I am tracking comes from Beckenham Kent England, born 1878 (1920 U.S. Census) and founded "Mothers Cookies".
I have also found a Noah born England 1879 (1910 U.S. Census).
As both dates are from the Census, Birth dates are only to the nearest year, so they "could" be one and the same; but I do not think they are as my Noah (1878) was a  Barnardos boy who came via Canada (arrived 1891 on the SS Norwegian).

I would also like to find Noah's war record for WW11. He was drafted into WW1 at 37 and apparently again in 1941 aged 63!

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Re: Noah Wheatley
« Reply #1 on: Monday 06 September 10 16:58 BST (UK) »
Noah Wheatley
Birth Date: 1 Sep 1878
Birth Place: Beckenham. Kent. England
Residence: Alameda, California
Name and address of person who will always know him : Mr W Meder 1148 E18th Street. Oakland. California.

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Re: Noah Wheatley
« Reply #2 on: Monday 06 September 10 17:21 BST (UK) »
All men of a certain age (unless they were already in the military) were required to file draft registration cards - it doesn't mean that they were actually drafted or ever served in the military.  Most men whose WWII draft registration cards are currently available  (the ones referred to as the 'old man's draft') were not drafted.

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Re: Noah Wheatley
« Reply #3 on: Monday 06 September 10 17:23 BST (UK) »
Thankyou for clearing up that Little matter.

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Re: Noah Wheatley
« Reply #4 on: Monday 06 September 10 17:26 BST (UK) »
You're welcome.  The 1930 Census has a question about whether the person is a veteran, and Noah's says no, so looks like he was not in WWI.

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« Reply #5 on: Monday 06 September 10 17:31 BST (UK) »
Now, that is VERY interesting. Therefore someone has made a mistake ( I will go back and check) or something funny happened!

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« Reply #6 on: Monday 06 September 10 18:15 BST (UK) »
WW1 and WW2 sent - would you like 1930 Census or are you okay  ;)
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« Reply #7 on: Monday 06 September 10 18:37 BST (UK) »
1940-1997 California index for deaths shows (only) Noah Wheatley, born 1 September 1878.

Social Security index for deaths shows two Noahs, one born 1894, the other 1905.
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Re: Noah Wheatley
« Reply #8 on: Monday 06 September 10 20:40 BST (UK) »
1910 Census  San Francisco Assembly District 36, San Francisco, California

Noah Wheatley 31 Born England. News Dealer. Own Shop. Immigrated 1902. AL
Louia Wheatley 69 Born England. Mother. Widowed. Had 2 children and 2 survive. Immigrated 1907
Anna Wheatley 30  Born England. Sister. Immigrated 1907
 
 
British Home Children -  Herbert and Noah Wheatley

In the 1890's Alexander Duncan and Carrie Taylor took in two boys, Herbert and Noah Wheatley, from the Dr. Barnardo Home in England. These British Home Children were sent out to farms to help with the chores and other work until they turned 18 . Herbert Wheatley came to Canada when he was 13 years old arriving in 1890 on the S.S. Circassian from Liverpool 19 June 1890 arriving  in Quebec 30 June 1890.  Grace Joyce had the small wooden box given to the Barnardo children for their possessions which had belonged to Herbert.  After many years of searching she was finally able to return it to his family who were living in British Columbia.  Noah Wheatley went to Oakland, California and when Alexander Duncan Taylor and Carrie Dewhirst Taylor visited him in 1925 he owned a cookie bakery. He told them that if he had two or three more good years, he would have more money than he knew what to do with.

In 2002 an article was written by the present owners of the very large corporation who now owns "Mother's Cookies "--


"For nearly two decades N.M. Wheatley (who didn't care for his name of Noah and pronounced his middle name "Mike " although  his French mother spelled it Mique, worked hard as a hometown and foreign newspaper vendor at the corner or San Francisco's Market and Kearny streets.

In 1914, he became curious about an elderly couple who passed by his newstand every day carrying a covered basket filled with delicious home-baked vanilla cookies they sold door-to-door .  After trying one, Mique decided on the spot to purchase the rights to the recipe.


The taste of that vanilla cookie changed his life!  Mique decided to invest in something more permanent than a corner cart.  San Francisco's 1906 earthquake and subsequent fires influenced Mique to locate his business across the Bay  at a small, one man plant on 12th Avenue in Oakland he toiled all  night baking cookies in a three square foot oven with a nightly capacity  of about 2000 cookies or 150 boxes.  These sold for $1.00 a box and his vanilla cookie s were an overnight success.

Needing help, Mique hired a young woman to help him, and romance flourished in the small bakery.  Mique married his new assistant, Leopoldine, and together they ran the company until their son, Floyd, was old enough to take over .  In the early days, cookies were delivered in a wagon pulled by Mique's rented horse, Vanilla.  Later, Model T Ford's outdistanced Vanilla.  b  1922 the bakery needed more space, and the company moved to East 18th Street - a gamble so large that Mique was forced to sell his house and even the piano to pay for it!

In 1949 the company experienced more growing pains, and the bakers moved one final time to 81081st Avenue in Oakland, where the headquarters and bakery remains to this day  .  Thanks to Mique and Floyd, Mother's is a fixture in Oakland and in many other towns, employing over 750 people across 14 western states. Alaska, and Hawaii and importing and distributing biscuits from Europe. We salute Mique Wheatley, who went from selling news to making news.

http://mcintaylor.com/canada/alexander_duncan_taylor.html

http://sfcitizen.com/blog/tag/wheatley/
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