missing link

[susan willis]

ive a missing link in my husbands tree that ive never managed to put to bed, wonder if anyone on here can maybe have a look and see if they can .as follows;
george webb b.1852/3 worcester
jane matthews b. 1849 silverdale staffordshire
ive never been able to find a marriage. they had there first child rose elizabeth in 1873 in litchfeild hednesford.
there second child nora/noah was born in castleford in yorkshire in 1878/9
the family then went to cowpen quay tynemouth northumberland,
in 1881 they are in bowes street cowpen
1891 they are in milburn street cowpen
in 1901 they are in hartlepool
in 1911 they are still in hartlepool
they had other children as follows
rose elizabeth webb b. 1873 litchfeild staffordshire
nora/noah b.castleford 1878/9
william george b. 1888 cowpen
ann jane b.1885 cowpen
charlotte .b.1890 died 1891 cowpen
mary ann b. 1890 cowpen died 1901 hartlepool
ada florence b. cowpen 1891
ellendeane b.1901 hartlepool           

[susan willis]

im replying to my own post so that i can finish my query as unable continue my previous post for some reason.
i am missing the marriage of george and jane and also trying to establish why they moved around as much as they did and as far, never been able to find george or jane prior to to 1873,any help would be much appreciated

[alyson123]

I had this problem a couple of times!
Perhaps Jane married before George Webb, in which case she would
marry George under ..... Jane ? (1st husbands married name)
I would look through all possible George Webb marraiges marrying a
'Jane' and work backwards if you find one.
Alyson123

[Radcliff]

 1891 Census puts Janes birth in Silverdale Lancashire,

[c-side]

I know this isn't going to help you find the missing marriage but just to clarify the references to Cowpen.

Cowpen Quay is nowhere near Tynemouth (about 10 miles away).  The enumeration district of Cowpen in relation to the streets you mention would now be in modern day Blyth.  Likely church for baptisms would be St. Mary's.

Christine

[susan willis]

thanks for that, but already aware, of that info. reason i said tynemouth is because when i have searched for this family it comes up with tynemouth northumberland and sometimes cowpen quay or village but never blythe. i actually live in the north east so know the area quite well. just to add insult to injury on some records for blythe are listed as in morpeth. sue

[c-side]

Hi Sue,

It's pretty confusing for anyone who knows Blyth as it is now but back then it did not exist as a place in either census, parish or civil records.

Waterloo Road is a good guide - everything to the north was Horton Parish (St. Mary's being a chapel of ease from about 1864 until it became a parish in it's own right in 1897).  Census district was Cowpen and civil registration district was Morpeth.

South of Waterloo Road was Earsdon parish (St. Cuthberts being a chapel of ease for that parish).  Census district was Earsdon and registration district Tynemouth.

You'll also find Blyth as we know it referred to as South Blyth - the original Blyth being north of the river!!

Christine

[peter brownlee]

Silverdale is in Lancashire as pointed out earlier, on the Lancashire side of Morecambe Bay. No sign of the Matthews in 1851. The only likely Jane Matthews birth is registered at West Derby which is a suburb of Liverpool. There is a John and Julia Matthews born Ireland with a daughter of the right age born Lancashire, also a visitor called Rose Wood which might be the origin of Rose Elizabeth.
Bit conjectural, but Silverdale was full of well to do families in 1851 and they might have been employed there for a while.
Peter

[susan willis]

thanks peter, that a usefull bit of info about silverdale been full of the well to do , could be her parents worked there and that was how come she was born in the place, just found out that here is only about 1600 people lived in the place.been going over my webbs stuff but not much to go on with jane other than she is definatly a matthews, checked back through all the census and they all say born in staffordshire apart from the 1891 which says silverdale, but on her daughters birth certif her last child born hartlepool in 1901 she has just left her mark so obviously she was unable to read and write so maybe she didnt know where she was born. I have never been able to find her marriage to george, just have to keep looking i suppose. sue