Kyrkes at Gwersyllt

[wilcoxon]

Regarding the fate of the Kyrkes in the Wrexham area, I think the connection was severed when Richard Venables KYRKE died at Hawarden in 1899,

In the list of Subscribers to A N Palmers History of the town of Wrexham. Published 1893
R V Kyrke. Penywern, near Mold.

[Adnepos_Iacobi]

Hi interalia

The Wrexham Kyrkes are remote cousins of mine. I'm a descendant of the Chapel-en-le-Frith Kyrkes. The two interesting points from Richard KIRK (1746-1839) relations back in Chapel-en-le-Frith are that they fairly consistently used the spelling Kyrke -he was the exception, his sons returned to traditional spelling- and the family back in Derbyshire were prominent non-conformists, despite playing an important role is parish affairs.

Thank you so much for all that interesting information, particularly the existence of a surviving will of Elizabeth KYRKE (nee Walker). I haven't yet found details of a marriage for her and James KYRKE. There was a christening of a Frances KYRKE (born 8 Mar 1818) 17 June 1818 at Minera Chapel who looks like she would have been a daughter but agree that the couple had no surviving children. I haven't found any evidence for James remarrying. A document in the Denbighshire archive  confirms, according to a descendant of brother Richard Venables KYRKE (1792-1868), that James had no children that survived childhood.

[smarlow57]

I just found this regarding James Kyrke marrying a "Walker"
Name: James Kirke
Gender: Male
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 04 Sep 1810
Marriage Place: St Oswald, Chester, Cheshire, England
Principal's Residence: St. Oswald, Chester, Cheshire, England
Spouse's Name: Betty Walker
Spouse's Residence: St. Oswald, Chester, Cheshire, England
Image Number: 511
Digital Folder Number: 4018801
Film Number: 2068355
Collection: England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000


But can someone please expalin the connection between Richard Venable Kyrke and the Rev Richard Kyrke that married Priscilla Catherine?  I think I missed something there.

Cheers
Susan

[IvanKing]

Response to Smarlow57

Rev Richard Kyrke (1820-1897, and married Priscilla Catherine Billinge in 1851) is the only son of George Kyrke, who is one of the brothers of Richard Venables Kyrke (1792-1868).  I am not sure whether this Richard Venables Kyrke had the second name of Venables, or whether it was only his son who took it on ... in that branch of the family tree they all seem to be named "Venables".

Rev Richard Kyrke and Priscilla Billinge had the following children:
Helena Baker Kyrke (always called "Nell" in the family) - 1852-1934, married Rev Jeremiah Chaffers-Welsh ar St Asaph 1875, and moved to Australia in 1890
Priscilla Catherine Kyrke (1853-1899 - same name as her mother) - unmarried
Richard Ashton Kyrke (1855-1936)
Charles Richard Kyrke (1857-1911) - I think unmarried
Emily (1861-1945) - unmarried

As far as I can tell, Rev  Richard Kyrke had two siblings:
Hannah (1815-1896) married to Rev William Dickson Blundell
Harriet (1818-1886) married 1848 to Rev Thomas Brown

[wilcoxon]

Jeremiah Chaffers-Welsh

 I just couldn`t resist a name like that, and found a few bits about him.
Apoplogies if it`s not really `Kyrke` related but .....

Cheshire Observer (May 08, 1875
On the 29th ult. Rev J Chaffers Welsh curate of Neston married Helena eldest daughter of Rev R Kyrke MA of Stone Braene, Northamptonshire late of  Brynmalley Denbighshire.

Liverpool Mercury, November 30, 1876
Person wanted advert for a mistress at a Church of England School ,  Rev J Chaffers Welsh.  227 Boundary Street Liverpool.

Hampshire Telegraph, July 19, 1890
Rev W Pettit vicar of St Pauls who left Shanklin in consequence of ill health is to resume duties, Rev J Chaffers Welsh curate in charge expects an appointment to a living in New South Wales.

The Leeds Mercury August 14, 1890
 Rev J Chaffers Welsh appointed to be chaplain and private secretary to  the Bishop of Sydney.

THE MURDERED ENGLISHMAN STOKES .
Cheshire Observer (, November 23, 1895

This is too long to copy, but it about a Mr Stokes who was a missionary , it gives a very good account on the work of  J Chaffers Welsh in Neston and the conditions he worked in with Stokes.
It seems Stokes been accused of supplying arms to natives in the Congo , and he was executed by order of Major Lothaire.
It was reported that he had been the victim of `monstrous injustice`

If anyone wants a copy of   this  then PM me.



 

[smarlow57]

Does anyone know when Richard Venables Kyrke (that was born in 1792) die?
I also have him marrying Harriet Jones  in ? and marrying Jane Frances Horseman in 1832.
How many children did he have with each wife?

Many Thanks
Susan

[wilcoxon]

I can`t him find yet, but The Wrexham Advertiser,(Saturday, June 17, 1871
has this.
Death
On the 6th inst at Hoylake aged 63 Jane Frances relict of the late Richard Venables Kyrke Esq late of Summerhill . Wrexham

[interalia]

Does anyone know when Richard Venables Kyrke (that was born in 1792) die?
I also have him marrying Harriet Jones  in ? and marrying Jane Frances Horseman in 1832.
How many children did he have with each wife?

I can`t him find yet, but The Wrexham Advertiser,(Saturday, June 17, 1871
has this.
Death
On the 6th inst at Hoylake aged 63 Jane Frances relict of the late Richard Venables Kyrke Esq late of Summerhill . Wrexham

I think it's probably this result:
Richard Kyrke, age 76, 1868 Mar qtr, Wirral, Vol 8a, p286

With Harriet Ann Jones so far I've only found Richard Venables Kyrke (b. abt 1822) as a child. Harriet was apparently still living in 1823.

With Jane I think these, though it may not be a complete list:
William Henry, abt 1833 (d. 1922 Mar qtr, Croydon district)
Edmund, abt 1837
Amelia Frances, 1839 Sep qtr
Vernon, abt 1841 in France
Elinor Jane, bapt. 1 Mar 1843, Isle of Man
James Arnold, abt 1845 in France (d. 1931 Mar qtr, Croydon district) - had a large family
Mary Isabella, abt 1847 in France (d. 1933 Mar qtr, Cirencester district)
George Albert, abt 1850 in France (d. 1923 Jun qtr, Hackney district)

[wilcoxon]

Got him now .
The Wrexham Advertiser,   February 15, 1868;
Deaths
On the 6th inst at Hoylake R V Kyrke Esq formerly  of Summer- Hill Wrexham aged 75 years .

( I live in Summer Hill    )