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Re: Kyrkes at Gwersyllt
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 10 April 11 15:52 BST (UK) »
Where did Arthur Venables KYRKE and Annie Upham DOMMETT live in Chard, do the house still exist?

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Re: Kyrkes at Gwersyllt
« Reply #37 on: Sunday 10 April 11 17:56 BST (UK) »
1881
RG11; Piece: 2386; Folio: 9; Page: 13;
4 Snowdon Cottage, High St  Chard.

1891
RG12; Piece: 1893; Folio 83; Page 1
They are still at Snowdon Road,

1901
RG13; Piece: 2277; Folio: 23; Page: 32
Arthur is not at home but the Annie is at Staplegrove, Taunton , Somerest.
It could be The Elm, but I`m not sure.

Annie  aged 50 and Evelyn Venables Kyrke 21 on the incoming
passenger lists
Port of departure New York, United States
Arrival Date: 4 Jun 1905
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Etruria
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Re: Kyrkes at Chard
« Reply #39 on: Sunday 10 April 11 23:53 BST (UK) »
The address is/was Snowden Cottage, High Street, Chard.

I guess The house was and probably is still at the junction of Snowden Cottage Lane and High Street. I can ask my in-laws; they live in Chard.
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Re: Kyrkes at Gwersyllt
« Reply #40 on: Monday 11 April 11 08:45 BST (UK) »
Kyrke

http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/edward-walford/the-county-families-of-the-united-kingdom-or-royal-manual-of-the-titled-and-un-fla/page-336-the-county-families-of-the-united-kingdom-or-royal-manual-of-the-titled-and-un-fla.shtml

This is interesting. Marjorie V Kyrke is 9 in the 1901 census,
 where she is at home with her mother Annie..
I can`t find Evelyn in a census .
I wonder what led to the marriage being dissolved
and what was the relationship between the two Kyrke girls.

Hilda Marjorie V Kyrke Birth reg mar qtr 1892 Chard

Evelyn Annie V Kyrke Birth reg Dec 1883 Christchurch

Marriages Jun 1906   
Spottiswoode John Roderich C H
Venables Kyrke , Evelyn A

Marriages Sep 1915 St Martin
Spottiswoode  John R C H 
Kyrke , Hylda V

SPOTTISWOODE, John Roderick Chares HERBERT -, Esq., of Spottis- wode, Berwickshire.

Eldest son of Capt. Charles Herbert, who d. 1882, by his 2nd wife Helen, who d. 1882, only child of the late Lieut.-Col. Andrew Spottiswoode ; b. 1882; s. his great-aunt. Lady John ilontagu-Douglas-Scott- Spottiswoode, 1900, and then assumed the additional surname of Spottiswoode ;
m. 1st 1906 (marriage dissolved 1915) Evelyn Anne, only child of Richard
Henry Venables Kyrke, Esq., of Nantyffrith, Flint- shire ;
2ndly 1915 Hylda Marjorie, youngest dau. of Col. Arthur Venables Kyrke, of Staplegrove Elm, Somerset
, and has a son, ■* John Terence Kennedy, b.
1917. Mr. Herbert-Spottiswoode, who was educated at Eton, is temp. Lieut. R. Naval Vol. Reserve. — Spottiswoode, Gordon, Berwickshire : R. Aero Club, w.

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Re: Kyrkes at Gwersyllt
« Reply #41 on: Monday 11 April 11 09:37 BST (UK) »

This is interesting. Marjorie V Kyrke is 9 in the 1901 census, where she is at home with her mother Annie.
I can`t find Evelyn in a census .
I wonder what led to the marriage being dissolved and what was the relationship between the two Kyrke girls.

Hilda Marjorie V Kyrke Birth reg mar qtr 1892 Chard

Evelyn Annie V Kyrke Birth reg Dec 1883 Christchurch

Marriages Jun 1906   
Spottiswoode John Roderich C H
Venables Kyrke , Evelyn A

Marriages Sep 1915 St Martin
Spottiswoode  John R C H 
Kyrke , Hylda V

The two Kyrke brides were first cousins. The fathers were the two salmon fishermen, Richard Henry Venables KYRKE (abt 1850-1925) and Arthur Venables KYRKE (1855-1921).
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Re: Kyrkes at Gwersyllt
« Reply #42 on: Monday 11 April 11 09:55 BST (UK) »
I can`t find Evelyn in a census .

At the time of the 1891 census Evelyn was lodging in Bournemouth (parents not there). Returned with mother, from Sydney Australia on the Liguria, arriving at Liverpool, in June 1895, presumably having visited her mother's relations in Brisbane. Returned with mother from New York on the Etruria, arriving Liverpool, 4 June 1905.
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Re: Kyrkes at Gwersyllt
« Reply #43 on: Monday 11 April 11 14:40 BST (UK) »
I did a search in Google Maps and found Snowdon Cottage Lane, Chard, United Kingdom - Is that the place?

It's a grade II listed building CHARD and at http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/en-374187-snowdon-cottage-chard-town you can find the following:

ST3108 SNOWDON COTTAGE LANE
756-1/3/155 (East side)
29/07/76 Snowdon Cottage

GV II

House. Probably C18. Garden front is rough ashlar, the rest is
rendered over limestone rubble, some exposed to rear. Hipped
L-shaped thatched roof with independent hipped pantile infill
to complete a square plan. 2-storeys, symmetrical 3-window
range to garden front; 2 late-C19 two-storey canted bays with
horned 2/2-pane sashes, and an early C19 four/eight-pane sash
to first-floor centre; c1960 French window to right of ground
floor, and glazed sun-room across entrance. Thatched roof,
with wide boarded eaves, extends over bays. Rear has C20
windows and door. INTERIOR not inspected.

The above website also provides an exact location, which shows the cottage to be where  oasorgard 
 suggested, rather tah at the corner of High Street and Snowdon Cottage Lane. No photograph!
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Re: Kyrkes at Gwersyllt
« Reply #44 on: Friday 22 April 11 12:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Kyrke searchers
I'm trying to sort out the tree for Rev Richard Kyrke (born c1820 - most censuses give birth at Wrexham; the 1871 census gives it as Bryn Mally nr Wacham [which I interpret as Wrexham]).  He died 1897 in Hampstead, and most of his life was spent in England.

The Oxford Alumni record gives him as only son of George, of Wrexham. He has a sister Harriet (1818-1886, married 1848 at St Asaph to Rev Thomas Brown).  Any other sisters anyone knows of?

Is this Richard the son of George (1781- 1859) who was record in the 1851 census staying with James Kyrke, and both were born in Wrexham - that is how I decipher the census record of their birthplace?  Or is there some other George about the place that I'm looking for?  Also, I wasn't clear on the posts whether James and George are brothers.

Note that the Richard I am looking at is a different one from Richard Venables Kyrke.  In my line of Kyrke's, none has been given the second name of Venables.