Alternative names

[NealBuckley]

I have a marriage for Hannah Oldfield to a William Walton in 1818 but she crops up with william in 41 and 51 census as Mary. Most of the children on the cenus appear in Parish records as mother Hannah, Could Mary be an alternative name for Hannah?

All suggestions appreciated.

Neal.

[CaroleW]

Or did Hannah die before 1841 and William re-married to Mary??

[NealBuckley]

You could be on to something with that thought, thanks.

There is a further marriage of a William Walton to a Mary Dawson (widow) in 1828. The last reference to Hannah that I can find is at the birth of her daughter Jane in 1824. There is a further son John born 1827 but no sign of him in Parish births. I've even checked Dawson to see if he's a step son but nothing doing!

The records of burials for St Chad's Rochdale from 1825 to 1843 are a little patchy, if non existent. So, unfortunately, for the time being I can't check on a burial for Hannah Walton.

[garstonite]

Hiya NEAL....these are TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT COUPLES  ..both having children from 1818 at St Chads ,Rochdale 
William Walton and Martha
abode Marled Earth...these are who you are getting mixed up with...

William and Hannah............the marriage is on
www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html 
12th January 1818 atSt Chad ,Rochdale
William Walton  X   of this parish   
Hannah Oldfield  X  of this parish
Witness D Nield   G Fletcher
married by Thomas Royds

babtism  10th sep 1820 same church  James Walton  parents William and Hannah
abode Knook Cronkeshaw
occ woollen weaver
Thomas Walton 8th sep 1822 same church  parents William and Hannah
abode  now in Cross Lees
same occ
Jane 8th june 1824 same church  born 3rd May parents William and Hannah
abode Polly Green
same occ
OK gone 6 years after Jane...no more for William Hannah at this church...I`ll see if I can find a death for Hannah....allan

[garstonite]

Hannah Oldfield was babtised 18th August 1794 St Chad ,Rochdale,Lancs daughter of William and Jane ...
this will give you an age to match for Hannah Walton death....allan
ADDED   Death of Hannah Walton aged 43 in 1838 Rochdale on www.lancashirebmd.org.uk
this matches the birth in 1794 ....allan
just checked on lancsbmd and lan-opc and can`t see a marriage of William Walto to a Mary from 1838 to 1841...allan

[NealBuckley]

Hi Allan

I'd seen the william and martha marriage and discounted them because their offspring doesn't match what I have on census records for a direct line to my paternal grandmother.

William and Hannah's offspring match the lineage through to the present day: James, Thomas and Jane with the addition of John in abt 1827 but the census gives Mary Walton as mother from 1841 onwards. As far as I can tell either I've gone wrong somewhere with the whole lineage or William re-marries after hannah's death (post 1824 or 27.)

I'm confused now! lol.

[garstonite]

That death in 1838 is the only non infant Hannah Walton I can find in the time frame of 1824 (Janes birth) to the 1841 census...and the age matches exactly....43...it is a possible..allan

[NealBuckley]

Thanks Allan.

So that discounts the further marriage of William to Mary Dawson in 1828 as Hannah is still living till 1838, which leaves the riddle of who the heck is Mary on the 41 and 51 census.

[garstonite]

seems a little soon after Johns birth UNLESS Hannah died in childbirth   with 4 kids he would need a new wife asap...I know I would ...lol   allan