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Offline kathhale

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help finding a will in 1866
« on: Friday 03 September 10 08:00 BST (UK) »
Hello everyone,
on ancestry I have found the basic details of a will for a JOHN PICKSLEY .
He lived Moor Park Preston
The details are only basic and I wondered if anyone knows if it is possible to find the original will any were.
I have looked on National Archives but as far as I can see the date is wrong for them.
any advice greatly appreciated
Kath
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Re: help finding a will in 1866
« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 September 10 08:34 BST (UK) »
Hiya Kath...the site I used to use was
http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/Wills/?sysredir=y   BUT...I have just been on there for you and it says it has been moved ...let me try again....in the meantime have a look yourself ...you may see something I cant...allan   back soon
ADDED....SORRY KATH...THIS SITE LOOKS NO GOOD NOW.....allan >:(
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Re: help finding a will in 1866
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 September 10 08:44 BST (UK) »
John Picksley  aged 48
buried 2nd August 1866
St John church, Preston,Lancs
abode  Moor Park
buried by R Shepherd
I presume this is your John Picksley  ???.....allan
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Re: help finding a will in 1866
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 September 10 08:58 BST (UK) »
This is the form to use for post 1858 wills:

http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/courtfinder/forms/pa1s_0405.pdf

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Re: help finding a will in 1866
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 September 10 09:04 BST (UK) »
Yes that is John Picksley.
I have his death certificate . Thanks for the burial info.
I will attach the page I found on ancestry.
What I am interested in trying to find out from the original will is who else he may have made bequests to.
As you can see it names a REUBEN SIMS as his brother,he was Johns business partner and although I have tried for years to find a family link I have never found any between the two men
anyway thank you for your input
kath

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wilkinson lancashire
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schofield lancashire
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stinton worcestershire
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connor ireland lancashire

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Re: help finding a will in 1866
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 September 10 09:04 BST (UK) »
A copy of a post 1858 will can be bought from The Probate Registry in York, using the form signposted by Mo above.  They take about 4 weeks to arrive (well, mine did earlier in the summer).  www.theprobateservice.gov.uk gives more info.

When you say "the date is wrong", don't forget the will date is not based on the death date but rather on the date when the family got round to applying for probate.  It can even be years after the death, but was more usually a couple of months in 19th century.
Perrins - Manchester and Staffs
Honan - Manchester and Ireland
Hogg - Manchester 19 cent
Anderson - Newcastle mid 19 cent
Boullen - London then Carlisle then Manchester
Comer - Manchester and Galway

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Re: help finding a will in 1866
« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 September 10 09:08 BST (UK) »
Thank you I will do that.
When I said the date was wrong I did not explain myself, I meant that documents on line do not publish wills up to 1866 they only go up to about 1858 or something like that.
Sorry page would not attach
Off to look at the site for ordering the will
Thank you
Really appreciate everyones help
Kath
sims london,essex ,lancashire
 hale wiltshire,essex,surrey
 terry scotland,lancashire
wilkinson lancashire
 hamer bolton lancashire
schofield lancashire
Wood manchester
stinton worcestershire
Nash bolton lancashire
connor ireland lancashire

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Re: help finding a will in 1866
« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 September 10 09:15 BST (UK) »
The cut-off date of 1858 is because that was when wills ceased to be proved by various church courts all over the place and were dealt with by the central registry which still deals with them today.  All those post 1858 wills are on a very useful index which can be checked at various record offices and I think are also online on one of the subscription sites.
Perrins - Manchester and Staffs
Honan - Manchester and Ireland
Hogg - Manchester 19 cent
Anderson - Newcastle mid 19 cent
Boullen - London then Carlisle then Manchester
Comer - Manchester and Galway

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Re: help finding a will in 1866
« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 September 10 09:28 BST (UK) »
There is a list of regional probate registries here

http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/infoabout/civil/probate/registries.htm

If you are near to one, you could make enquiries about getting a copy from there, some local registries are able to offer a 'national' service.

You only need to give them the full name, date of death, and the date and place the will was proved, all these details are available on the calendar.

If you can't go local, then you need to send a cheque for £5 with the same details to the Probate registry at York, more info here

http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/1226.htm

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