Dr BLACK, Collins Street Melbourne

[Glamis]

Tropical and Cando- again, Thanks to you too for both. I am astounded at your expertise and the finds you turn up. Well, This poses the question which Dr Black I suppose? I'll have to ask Mum to think back on that one. She may recall a christian name- who knows. Her Mother was Olive Te Akau Hickson. It is my understanding (to be clarified) she was married in NZ to John George Herbert Hankins but that's another story.... as you will know.

[tropicalj]

A look at a tree or two in cyber space has Olive being born in 1883 is that correct?

If so she would be hard pressed to be in service prior to that 

Jenn

[tropicalj]

I see abirth in New Zealand

reg no 1883/2313
name  Hickson  Mary Te Akau 

Jenn

[tropicalj]

You seem quite certain that she was left a house in Victoria but do you know when might have been? 

Jenn

[Glamis]

Hi Tropical, I have been stumped looking for a birth, marriage or a death for Olive but as you have found a birth for Mary Te Akau, I believe this is it. You've jolted a memory as  I believe she was Olive Mary Te Akau Hankins nee Hickson. Her Mother was Louisa Rui Hickson nee Cook. As far as the 'in service' bit goes. This is a new one. I don't think this is the case but I stand to be corrected. Mum assumes that Dr Black was somehow a friend of the family in NZ and as he had sons in NZ this is entirely possible. Which one connected to the Hicksons is a new question. The house bequest is a story Mum recounts because she understood it was sold at some point back in the ? 1930s to recoup funds during the Great depression then.

[judb]

I have modified my ealier post about the Will as Herbert MEYER is his son-in-law not his son. There is a mention of the 'late' wife of Herbert MEYER, but no name for her; it would appear that Beatrice Ethel MEYER is the daughter of Herbert MEYER.

He says he has given the sons 'two fully stocked stations in New Zealand and some thousands of pounds from time to time in my lifetime'.

Judith

[Glamis]

Hi JudB, Mum has just read the Will info Re: Thomas Black. No one on it is anyone she recalls any discussions about. Neither the revision you have added. Its all a bit of a mystery. Maybe its the wrong Dr Black we're looking at? If Dr Thomas Black died 1893 then Olive Mary would have been 13. Mum says her Mother got this 'ATCL' which meant she could teach music at 14 years old, I don't think it can have been Dr Thomas Black- maybe one of his son's then?

[judb]

A few more snippets:
According to notices in the digitised newspaper site (using search for Black St Kilda Cintra):

• The son-in-law Herbert MEYER was from Canterbury NZ (marriage 1861)
  The marriage of Jane Irwin BLACK (1862) to Francis John ALDERSON took place in Dunedin.
  Son William was with the National Bank of Australasia in 1878
  Thmas' wife died 2 February 1874 (no first name given)

It could well be that he is not the right Dr Black.  The connections to New Zealand may be only a co-incidence.  Perhaps the Dr Black's practice was in Collins St and he lived elsewhere??

Judith

[Glamis]

Mmmm, JudB- Thanks. I do think we may need to look sideways for another Dr Black although Mum is adamant he was a Doctor in Melbourne- she has just gone having read your last snippets. She confirms her Mother was known by her 2nd name as many were- Mary. Olive Mary Te Akau is 'our' lady. The children; Mum and her siblings said that if they referred to her as 'Ollie' she would be riled, this they did by way of humour and family banter.