Dr BLACK, Collins Street Melbourne

[Glamis]

Hi, Can anyone tell me any pointers on this chap and the premises he had in Collins Street? It would be around 1870-1930'ish. My Grandmother resided with his household circa 1870/1890 at a guess; he left a property at Collins Street to her. This is a gap in our Granny's life. My Mother knows this much but no more. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks. An address number would be a great help and any info on the Doctor? (My Mum will be 90 in December - this gives you a timeline for events)

[cando]

Your Dr Black may not have always practised at the premises in Collins Street.  Do you have his year of death or any other identifying information?

Was he practising pre 1875?
http://www.medicalpioneers.com/

Sands & McDougall
1875
BLACK, Joseph [Physician] Bourke Street West
Died 1879 and there is a file on PROV http://www.prov.vic.gov.au/indexes/index_search.asp?searchid=54

1880
BLACK Dr Archibald G, 6 Alfred Place, Victoria Street, Carlton
BLACK Dr J G 15 Grattan Street, Carlton
Died Dec 1891 - no file on PROV

1896, 1897, 1898, 1911 Physicians & Surgeons
BLACK Archibald G  92 Victoria Street, Carlton

1915 - Physicians & Surgeons
BLACK Dr A G  432 St Kilda Road  [Archibald Grant BLACK died 1943 aged 86 years at Caulfield Reg# 1962]
BLACK Dr J J 92 Victoria Street, Carlton

For further info I suggest you google Archibald Grant BLACK if you think he is you man and there are also quite a few snippets on
http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home
including some items in the Victorian Government Gazette.

Cheers
Cando

[Glamis]

Hi Cando, Thanks so much for this lot. No, we have nothing. All Mum knows is her Mum lived with Dr Black in Australia when she was a child and he left a property to her. As Mum is 'mature' her memory may be remembering her Mother saying she lived with Dr Black at Collins Street or it may be he left the property to her at Collins Street. A bit ' fuggled'  I know but allowances have to be made. It is a certain he left a property to her Mum- clarifying where is a question after the next question which is why she lived with Dr Black.

[cando]

What years are you referring to?

Cando

[Glamis]

Hi Cando, again we don't have much of a clue but it would be the years from approx 1870-1885. Cheers

[judb]

There is a very long and complcated will for a Thomas BLACK, Doctor of Medicine, died September 1894, resident 'Cintra', East St Kilda and also has a property with frontage 'on the south side of Collins St' and onto Swanston St. The city property is leased out and mortgaged, and has erected a four-storey building known as Victoria Buildings.  There is no evidence, though, that he practised from this building.

People mentioned in the Will:
daughters: Elizabeth Hyndman HOGG, Jane Irwin ALDERSON, Isabella FIREBRACE and her husband Robert Tarver (Farver?) FIREBRACE,
son-in-law: Herbert MEYER,

sons: Charles Frederick BLACK, William BLACK and his wife Rebecca BLACK, Hugh Leathem BLACK,

grand-daughters: Beatrice Ethel MEYER (dau of Herbert), Florence Elizabeth BLACK (dau of William I think), Julia CHOMLEY and her husband Arthur Wolfe CHOMLEY, 3 daughters of Elizabeth Hyndman HOGG: Edith Elizabeth DOBBIE, Amy and Ina HOGG,

grandsons: Edward Hall ALDERSON,

sister: Sarah BLACK,

Mentions that his son/s are well set up in New Zealand which is why they get less than the others.

There are quite few mentions on the NLA digi newspapers site
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/

I wonder if any of these names are meaningful to you?

Judith

[Glamis]

JudB, Thanks so very much for this. I'll pass it by My Mum- she may recall some if not one but there again her Mum would have been around 12-14 when she resided with Dr Black. It was with his household she learnt to play the piano and became more than accomplished at it- 'ACTL' what ever that is aged 14.

[tropicalj]

JudB has given you some good information there

Perhaps if you can tell us your grandmothers name we might find some reference to her.

Her name and aged and parents etc was she married in Australia?

thanks Jenn

[cando]

"Cintra" at 423 St Kilda Road was also the home of Archibald Grant BLACK...wonder what the relationship was with Thomas.... Archibald's parents were James BLACK and Margaret GRANT and brother of Dr J G Black.
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5925333/251099?searchTerm=archibald%20grant%20black#pstart251099

Death registration

BLACK Thomas
Father Thomas  Mother Jane TREWIN
95 years  at St Kilda  1894  Reg#11308

Cheers
Cando