Did they marry in Melbourne?

[cando]

And another birth in NZ
1881/7986   
FORD Mabel Edith    
Mother Mary Elizabeth   Father Henry

Any previous births to Matthew William COX and Mary Elizabeth will be noted on the 1885 birth certificate of Florence Amy in 1885 and possibly any previous births to Mary Elizabeth DADY on the 1888 birth cert of Amelia Francis.

I think it is simply a matter of seeing some certificates and then detective work...good luck.

Cando

[Suzy W]

Bingo... Someone on the I.G.I has posted her name, had possible birth Christchurch New Zealand, but no record of her born here.
Also her marriage to Henry Ford.
Will try and make contact with this man.

Cheers
Suzy W

[Suzy W]

Oh dear!!

Just wondering if they are the same Mary's?  Firstly she was married  Moses Hymus for three weeks 1873. Then must of married Henry Ford the next year in 1874 in New Zealand,  then she had children to Matthew Cox while in Australia between 1883-1888

Mabel Edith Ford born New Zealand 1881 and parents marriage 1873, crumbs was Mary a widow by 1883 and had more children to Matthew?  What a busy lady

Looks as if a cert is called for, she is starting to bother me.

Regards
Suzy W

[sparrett]

Hi

Bingo... Someone on the I.G.I has posted her name, had possible birth Christchurch New Zealand, but no record of her born here.
Also her marriage to Henry Ford.
Will try and make contact with this man.


Or perhaps consider getting the truth for yourself by following Cando's advice and purchasing a certificate or two.

Some submissions to IGI can be based on very little evidence and, in some cases, I have found wishful thinking.

I recently found a submission for a family member in my tree who never existed. Was invented to fill  a gap!

Sue

[cando]

I whole heartedly agree with Sue's comments.

If you search IGI you will not find the information
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true

The entries are in the Pedigree Resources Files
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=prf/search_PRF.asp&clear_form=true

... and says possibly born in NZ once in 1849 and another in 1870

 IGI include transcribed parish records and these entries are certainly not that. It would appear that the marriage information is simply taken from NZ bdm.   If it were me I would be ignoring the submitted information and purchasing a certificate or two....at least you would find her place of birth.

Where possible, always do you own research....much more rewarding

Have you tried to track Mary in NZ...electoral rolls etc?

Sadly no death reg for a Mary Elizabeth Ford that fits with her age,

Suzy W
When do you think she was born?  You would need to take this information from one or other of her marriage certs in NZ.

Mary Elizabeth DADY was not born in New Zealand...from the newspaper report of the trial for bigamy.

Mr Joynt : I knew both parties prior to the marriage.  Prisoner was keeping a fruit shop in High Street, and she was staying at my house.  She had been at service previously.  She came out ont he same ship with me.  To the best of my knowledge, she knew prisoner nearly a fortnight before the marriage.  He told me he had got a legal separation from his wife........

Cando

[Suzy W]

According to the Papers past report she was 20 in 1874 so birth about 1854.  I have checked the NZ BMD and no sign of her there, so probably born England or Ireland.
I also agree about the I.G.I, once I went back and looked at the results it was not very clear.  I normally do not go by other people's work, but if someone had a reference to a not so known name it is always good to follow up.
I will look at NZ archives next for any other leads, and birth cert may have to be ordered for Florance very soon.

Thanks for the help
Suzy W

[cando]

I'm having a bad day as I can't see any reference to Mary Elizabeth DADY's age in the newspaper reports.  Which one is it is please...the first or second link.  

Cheers
Cando 

[Suzy W]

We all have those days

Second article, she states she came to New Zealand as a single women with no relations here aged 20, and told Mr Hymus that she was 21 so she could marry him.

As for no relations this is correct, there are no other references to any Dady's on the NZ BMD.  But NZ archives has something on a John Dady convict from Tasmania being sent to New Zealand late 1830's, he did not stay here long and must of returned to Australia.  Not sure if there is any connection between the pair, but worth noting.  So I am now going to have a look for John Dady in the convict list just for curiosity.

Suzy W 
 

[cando]

Ah nothing like a break outside....how on earth did I miss that snippet of info    

So 20 years of age in Dec 1873 at time of the marriage.  However we still don't know where she was born.  I have found a birth and baptism for an Elizabeth Mary DADY but not sure if it is her as the given names are reversed and this person was also Elizabeth on the 1861 census.  Really need to find her place of birth on a cert.

Perhaps you may like to seek help on the NZ board for Mary's arrival in NZ.  According to the newspaper item, she emigrated on the same ship as Mr Joynt.

Three DADY convicts
http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=11

Cheers
Cando