John Loughlin, Ponui Island, Thames *COMPLETED*

[Lin Up a Tree]

Just wanted to add, I found this http://sites.google.com/site/4th9coro/electoral-roll-1893-h-to-m, kind of suggesting that John's not around in 1893, but Elizabeth Jane, Eliza Jane, David, James McGowan & Samuel all are.

I wonder if there are earlier electoral rolls with John on it?

Otherwise (and this is only me), I think I'd probably just order the 1892 death cert possibility to put myself out of my misery -- think I'm out of ideas at this stage otherwise.

Will be so excited to hear if you find anything. 

[lindynz]

The death certificate has been ordered, this is the most likely possibility we have heard in a long time!

[Lin Up a Tree]

eee how exciting!  i'll be crossing my fingers for you!

[lindynz]

Just a quick update about John Loughlin/Laughlin's death certificate. I have seen it now and although it unfortunately contains no family information, what little it does give seems to match our John.

It says he was born in Ireland and was in the country 27 years, which matches the year we know he arrived, 1865. It seems strange there were no other details, but it looks like he was a charity case at the City Mission so the informant would have known little about him. He must have been estranged from the family.

The mystery lives on as to why he was alone in Auckland, and who his family were in Ireland, but at least we seem to have solved the mystery of where he ended up. So thank you everybody for helping me to find that death record, hopefully there is still more information to come to light!

[Thamesite2017]

Very sad
but interesting
I wonder if he kept on the electoral rolls during those preceding years, it would be interesting to know how he described himself
Bye
Althea

[Lin Up a Tree]

Oh my word, that's brilliant, Lindy!    I'm so thrilled that you've moved a little closer to solving things. 


So, what clues or leads do we have to work with to find out mystery part 2?

* Was there a cause of death that might indicate anything?
* What was the name of the informant?
* Would Waikumete Cemetery hold any other info other than what we can see in their online database (e.g. buried with anyone? plot purchaser?)
* What records between 1879-1892 (incl. electoral rolls, thanks Althea!) are there available to investigate, and what have we already investigated?

[lindynz]

The cause of death is (I think- hard to read) "necrosis of tarsus septicemia" - an infection? which doesn't help much. The informant was James Nash, a hospital messenger (Auckland Hospital). It also mentions, again hard to read, Duncan McPherson of the City Missionary.

I have also recently been told by another researcher that everything they have heard points to him having just walked away from the family.

I haven't yet looked for what other information the cemetery holds, but I presume if he was a charity case there would be no headstone, or other family nearby if he was estranged from them. Also I haven't seen any electoral roll mention of him, though I haven't checked the Auckland roll.

[Thamesite2017]

* What records between 1879-1892 (incl. electoral rolls, thanks Althea!) are there available to investigate, and what have we already investigated?

To Lin
Electoral rolls: 1881-1891
Burgess Rolls
Directories

Will need to reread if we have covered any
Bye
Althea

[Thamesite2017]

Interesting that Eliza JAne appears in Street directories by herself from 1894, which would suggest her husband had died?? just previous
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~althea/Combined%20Street%20Directories%201873%20to%201906.htm takes awhile to load

If you look at this one
LAUGHLAN John Farmer Pollen St 1875 THAMES DIRECTORY 

So 1875 John is in a street directory as owner of properties
1887 Eliza is on the Burgess roll not John
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~althea/Burgess%20Roll%201887%20sort.htm

I can't see him on the combined disk, only John's have O'L... as surname spelling
Bye
Althea