John Loughlin, Ponui Island, Thames *COMPLETED*

[lindynz]

I am looking for information about John Loughlin, who came to New Zealand in 1864 on the "Dauntless" with some of his children. His wife Eliza Jane (Adams) and other children followed in 1866. The family were from the Comber area in Down, Northern Ireland.

They eventually settled in the Thames area, but I believe they were in Ponui Island before that. I would like any information at all about John Loughlin in particular, because I know next to nothing about him. Two of his sons, David John and Samuel Jameson Loughlin were mine managers in Thames.

I have been unable to find out what happened to him in New Zealand, he is not buried with his wife in Tararu cemetery. I believe a John Loughlin died in N.Z. in 1865 but I don't know if this is him, as I thought he was alive in at least 1866. I am also wondering if there is any record of what the family were doing in Ponui Island, I would love to know more about that.

[Lin Up a Tree]

Have you tried checking the Papers Past website?

One thing I found there was that John appears to have died before Eliza Jane/29 July 1904, according to this: http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=THS19040729.2.13&srpos=4&e=-------10--1----2John+Loughlin--

[kiwihalfpint]

Hi Lindy,

Althea should see this thread when she signs in and hopefully might be able to have some suggestions for you where to look as Thames is her area.

Wish you luck in your search.


Cheers
KHP

[lindynz]

Yes, I have seen that, there are a number of clues that he wasn't around when the family were in Thames. They went to Ponui Island in 1865, which probably rules out that 1865 death record, especially since it is in the South Island.

We assume he was with the family when they went to Thames in 1869, but I have started to wonder if he went elsewhere, maybe he even stayed on Ponui? It seems odd that there is no death record for him. This is a mystery that has been with the family for many years!

Thank you kiwihalfpint, I will keep watching!

[Thamesite2017]

Hi
just checking in
several loughlin lines in Thames and spelling variants.
Will check the family trees/pioneer forms am at The Treasury

Lots of JOHN LOUGHLIN's with miners rights
http://www.kaelewis.com/
 Are the McLoughlin's different, does the family ever have the MC prefix

sadly Eliza Jane's Electoral roll entries only say domestic duties and not marital state

Interesting that Eliza JAne appears in Street directories by herself from 1894, which would suggest her husband had died?? just previous
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~althea/Combined%20Street%20Directories%201873%20to%201906.htm takes awhile to load

If you look at this one
LAUGHLAN John Farmer Pollen St 1875 THAMES DIRECTORY 

makes one wonder if this is JOhn???

Bye
Althea

[Thamesite2017]

were there other children
? a James M G b 8/12/1868? because he is at school 1879, father John Loughlin of Pollen Street.
BYe
Althea

[Lin Up a Tree]

Althea, I also wondered if there was another son after seeing pages like these:
http://dechantweb.net/genealogy/ged2web/people/p0000000.htm#I776
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~sooty/cyclopediaaucklandl-z.html


I think in the NZ Births index he is shown as James McGowan LAUGHLIN (b. 1867)

Had a look for that spelling in the NZ deaths index & saw a death for John LAUGHLIN 28 SEP 1892, age 68
(so birth year approx 1824)
... could that be a possibility?

[Thamesite2017]

The burial records for that JOhn are at Waikumete
which is still a possibility as some Thames ones even then seem to pop up there
I can check the fiche to see where that was registered
http://www.waitakere.govt.nz/cnlser/cm/cemeterysearch/cemeterydetails.aspx?id=91016
BYe
Althea

[Thamesite2017]

http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-Cyc02Cycl-t1-body1-d3-d5-d13.html
definetly is
no wonder I'd heard of james - he's a grocer
Bye
Althea