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burials in heptonstall
« on: Monday 30 August 10 00:42 BST (UK) »
can anyone please help solve a burial puzzle
i am looking for three members of the same family
fred smith died aged 17 on the fifth of dec 1922 he lived at 25 high street hebden bridge
fanny smith died aged 59 on 12 aug 1930 buried on 15 aug 1930 same address
edwin smith died aged 63 on 3 dec 1933  buried on 6 dec 1933same address
archive records for stansview hospital say both fanny and edwin were taken to heptonstall church for burial  however i cannot find any records to confirm this nor any graves
does anyone have any clues please

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Re: burials in heptonstall
« Reply #1 on: Monday 30 August 10 19:51 BST (UK) »
Dear Ajpbuilderhelen,
The burials could have taken place at Cross Stone Church, the daughter church of St Thomas's.
have you looked in the actual records for St Thomas's?
If not i can have a look next weeekend.
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Andy
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Re: burials in heptonstall
« Reply #2 on: Monday 30 August 10 20:07 BST (UK) »
hi Andy,
the only records we have seen are the ones for heptonstall church.
edwin and fanny smith were the parents of fred smith.they also had another son called william norman smith who died in 1918 and was buried at heptonstall along with his son jack but no sign of the others.
would be grateful for any help
regards helen

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Re: burials in heptonstall
« Reply #3 on: Monday 30 August 10 20:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Helen,
Have you considered they could be buried in a municipal cemetery, the nearest one in Calderdale  is Luddenden, dont know about Todmorden or further west.
will have a look in the various registers next weekend when i go to Halifax.
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Andy
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Re: burials in heptonstall
« Reply #4 on: Monday 30 August 10 21:08 BST (UK) »
hi andy
i dont really know the area very well . i know the family were not well off and i didnt know whether the public graves would be registered in the same place. when edwin smith died all that was left of his immediate family that i know of was his 18 year old daughter ethel so i am hoping that she put her father with the rest of her family.they must be somewhere! hope you can help
regards helen

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Re: burials in heptonstall
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 04 September 10 14:08 BST (UK) »
Hello Helen,
I have had a look at the records in Halifax Library and there are no records of burials in St Thomas's Heptonstall after 1851, i dont know where these recods are apart from the church itself.St Thomas's are still burying people in the extended part of the graveyard, they may be in there in an unmarked grave.
I have looked in Ludenden and they are not there.
There are no records for St James Hebden Bridge in the library after 1898.
I have found all the deaths recorded in the Hebden Bridge Times, and the Inquest report for Fred.
The pictures are not particularly clear except for the inquest but you can make them out.
if you have not got these i will send them to you if you PM me with your email address,
Regards,
Andy
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Re: burials in heptonstall
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 05 September 10 09:01 BST (UK) »
hi andy
thankyou for taking the time out to search records for me
wakefield archives checked cross stone burials and they are not there.
where would you suggest i look now.
regards helen

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Re: burials in heptonstall
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 07 September 10 19:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Helen,
If St Thomasis is definately not their final resting place you need to look arround.
Have you thought of Public graves atr St Thomas's, you would need to contact the churchwardens to find out more, trhere is a charge for searching the records, currently about £20.

Have you thought of slightly farther away, St Michael's Mytholmroyd and St James Hebden Bridge.
Failing that, what about non conformist graveyards, these were usually cheaper to buy a plot and were popular even with Cof E worshipers, as my family have proved, they worshiped at                    St Bartholomew's Ripponden but were buried at Rishworth Roadside Baptist Chapel.
They died in the town where they lived so i cannot see them being buried too far away.
Regards,
Andy
Howson, Yorkshire.                       Census Information crown Copyright
Pybus,Halifax Yorkshire.                   from   WWW. National Archives.gov.uk
Riley, Sowerby and Norland Yorkshire.
Gaukroger,Halifax Yorkshire.
Stansfield,Ripponden area Yorkshire