Help Please! - Henry TIPPING

[Doodles]

Hi Millih
I'm afraid I don't have any more info on Edward.  I wonder whether Edward Ernest (Ball) was named for his uncle Edward?
I have found many of the Tippings in censuses all living in the Cromer Street area of St Pancras, all in the building trade.  Also living in the area was Edward Read, carpenter, father to Eliza Ann. They were living there about the time St Pancras station and surrounding area was being built - I wonder if they were employed there? Mum & I had a look around that area recently, but sadly it has all been rebuilt, except for the station of course!
Edward Ernest was a bit of a naughty boy, leaving his first wife, and 5 children, for my Great Grandmother, who was much younger than him. We have found the divorce papers his wife served on him in 1923 - the first time women could file for divorce.  He then had 3 more children with my Gt Granny. We knew nothing of all this before starting our family research!
Do you have any more info about the Tippings?

[millih]

Hi Doodles
Here is what I have:
Henry TIPPING married Eliza Ann READ and had the following children:
  Louisa A TIPPING (1836-1918) + John J BALL
  Emily Eliza TIPPING (1838-?) + George JENNER
  Frances Mary TIPPING (1841-?)
  Edward TIPPING (1844-1928) + Eliza ASHDOWN
  Henrietta TIPPING (1847-1907) + Thomas J GALE
  Evelyn TIPPING (1851-1896) + William Thomas SPIERS

Edward TIPPING (1844 - 1928) married Eliza ASHDOWN (1846 - 1906) and had these children:
  Eliza TIPPING (1867 - 1912) + Godfrey GOUGH
      - Doris Kathleen M GOUGH (1894 - ?)
  Bertha TIPPING (1871 - 1873)
  Alice TIPPING (1873 - ?) + Reginald ASHFORD
      - Alice ASHFORD (1900 - ?)
      - Florence ASHFORD (1904 - ?)
  Clara TIPPING (1874 - 1955) + Herbert BONSON (1868 - 1952) ---she went to South Africa
      - Herbert E BONSON
      - Winifred M BONSON
      - Bernard S BONSON
      - Joan S BONSON
  Gertrude TIPPING (1881 - 1959) + E Snelling ---they went to South Africa
      - Doris SNELLING
      - Douglas SNELLING
      - Beatrice SNELLING
      - Mavis SNELLING
      - Dennis SNELLING
      - Bernard SNELLING
Do you have any info on the Lazarus ADDIS that married Emily Edith BALL?  I see he left her in about 1902 with quite a few children.  There  is a departure record for him to Canada but no return record.
Hope to hear from you!
   

[Doodles]

Thanks Millih
I recognise most of those names, but, funnily enough, hadn't found Edward's marriage.
I don't know any more about Lazarus Addis (great name!). Seems he may have abandoned his family...
I had some contact with someone whose wife was descended from the Gale family that Henrietta married into, but he didn't have any more information on the Tippings.
From the censuses it seems that Henry had other siblings - Rebecca, Frances & James at least. Other Tippings of a similar age living in the same area include Thomas, William and John, maybe other siblings?
I have also found a baptism for an Eliza Ann Read on 15.1.1817 in Leatherhead, parents Edward & Ann and of a brother, George Edward on 21.11.1819 - our Eliza says she is from Leatherhead on the 1851 census so this seems to fit.
On another note, I see you have Van der Westhuizen in your surname interests.  Is this a common name in SA? I have a friend in UK with that surname!

[millih]

Hi Doodles,
Thanks for all the info.  To add to Eliza Ann Read, I have a sister for her in my tree, Frances Mary Read, baptised 15 Mar 1815.  (Please let me know if I'm incorrect)
As for the marriage between Edward Tipping and Eliza Ashdown, I only have this reference: Mar 1866 - Lewisham - Vol 1d Pg 934. Regarding Lazarus Addis, I have been poking around for a day or two and found that he went to the US via Canada and lived in New Jersey.  It also seems that he got married and divorced(second time) there and had at least one child, Abraham Addis, born 1907.  I can't find a marriage record. He is described as "British-Hebrew" on the 1930 US Census record....I think I saw it there.
Your question on the 'van der Westhuizen' surname, it is my maiden surname! It is quite popular but probably not amongst the top 'most common surnames'.....maybe just below them.  Traditionally, 'van der Westhuizen' is more prevalent in the Afrikaans speaking community.  I'm trying to gather info on my side of the family but unfortunately on-line records in South Africa....well lets just say....they aren't "great".
Thank you for the names of probable siblings of Henry Tipping, I will go and investigate.
Maybe you can help me with this one--Evelyn Spiers (Tipping) had two daughters, Clarissa & Caroline--do you know what happened to them?

[Doodles]

Hi
I'm not sure what happened to Clarissa (baptised Clara Sarah!) or Caroline, but I have found other children of William & Evelyn Spiers: Evelyn (1875), Harriett (1877), William Alfred (1879) and Minnie Louise (1881).  there was also a Henry James born in 1883 but he died in 1885.  Not sure what happened to all these children, although a William Alfred Spiers did marry in 1908 in Islington.
I also discovered that Evelyn, the mother, died in 1896.  She wasn't very old, maybe 45. In 1911 William is living with his three daughters, Evelyn, Clarissa & Caroline - I expect you've found that.  It seems that perhaps eldest daughter Evelyn didn't marry & stayed looking after her dad?

[millih]

Hi Doodles,
Thank you for all the information.  This is enough to keep me going for a while!  I found information on the rootsweb.com site regarding Henry Tipping.  According to the informant, Henry married an Eliza Perkin and not Eliza Read....what do you think?

[Doodles]

Hi Again.
I have a wedding certificate for a Henry Tipping & Eliza Read and a birth certificate for Henrietta Tipping, parents Henry Tipping and Eliza Ann, formerly Read, so I'm quite happy that she was Read. I also have a death certificate for Henry Tipping. All these certificates date between 11.1.1847 - 17.2 1847 (marriage, birth, death in that order).  Henry was only 29 - he died of cancer of the lungs, a risk from being a plasterer in those times.  It seems a sad story! Eliza also had her children baptised in March & April of 1847 - maybe to try and legitimise the ones born out of wedlock?

[millih]

Hi Doodles,
Well, I suppose the one with the records on hand is the one to trust.  Thanks for the reply!