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births of Charles Wagstaffe and Mary Ann Sisson
« on: Friday 27 August 10 12:07 BST (UK) »
Could anyone help me trace the births of my great grandparents please. I have found their marriage in East retford Dec 1873.    Thanks BOBWAG
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Re: births of Charles Wagstaffe and Mary Ann Sisson
« Reply #1 on: Friday 27 August 10 12:27 BST (UK) »
Hi

Do you have them on the 1881 census - free to search at http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp

This should give ages and places of birth so we know where to look  :)

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Re: births of Charles Wagstaffe and Mary Ann Sisson
« Reply #2 on: Friday 27 August 10 14:51 BST (UK) »
I cant see any living in Nottingham although there is a possible couple in Gloucester in 1881  :-\

I think you should get their marriage certificate first for their ages and fathers names, that will help to find their accurate  births.
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Re: births of Charles Wagstaffe and Mary Ann Sisson
« Reply #3 on: Friday 27 August 10 14:59 BST (UK) »
Theres a Charles & Mary Ann with kids born after 1873 - in East Retford.

RG11; Piece: 3302; Folio: 66; Page: 21

Charles is a Railway Signalman born c1845 in Boston, Lincs.

Mary Ann c1847was born in Kimberley Notts.

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Re: births of Charles Wagstaffe and Mary Ann Sisson
« Reply #4 on: Friday 27 August 10 15:00 BST (UK) »
Presumably as they are g grandparents the had at least one child.
That child name and year and pob will help find the family on a later census, and thus find years and pobs for Charles and Mary Ann

(tho' Mort has got them already!!!)
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: births of Charles Wagstaffe and Mary Ann Sisson
« Reply #5 on: Friday 27 August 10 15:08 BST (UK) »
Sorry had typed up before I saw you had already posted..... ::)

Hello..... :)

Hopefully this is your family

Marriage - Retford St Saviour
CHARLES WAGSTAFFE & MARY ANN SISSON - 16th Dec 1873

Baptisms - East Retford - parents Charles & Mary Ann Wagstaff/Wagstaffe

ADA WAGSTAFF - 27th Aug 1876 - fathers occupation - Railway signalman - Spa Rd
EMILY WAGSTAFFE - 13th Jan 1878 - fathers occupation - Railway signalman - 3 Spa Rd
HARRY WAGSTAFFE - 11th June 1882 - fathers occupation - signalman - Spa Rd

1881 - RG11 /Piece / Folio 3302 / 66/ Page 21  3 Spa Road. East Retford, Nottinghamshire 

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Re: births of Charles Wagstaffe and Mary Ann Sisson
« Reply #6 on: Friday 27 August 10 15:25 BST (UK) »
Ah the reason I couldent see them in 1881 was I was not searching wide enough for possible birth dates.  ::)
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Re: births of Charles Wagstaffe and Mary Ann Sisson
« Reply #7 on: Friday 27 August 10 18:19 BST (UK) »
Hello....

I remember now giving you the details for Charles Wagstaff & his family...... a long time ago.....

As Charles gives his birthplace as Boston, Lincolnshire it might be worth asking on the Lincolnshire board in case they have access to his baptism etc.

The marriage certificate would give the names of the fathers....but I think this family is Mary Ann's - I haven't found a baptism for her and the only one for any of Thomas & Rachel Sisson's children was this.

Baptism at Greasley  - parents Thomas & Rachel Sisson
WILLIAM SISSON -  25th Sept 1844 - fathers occupation Coal Miner - abode Kimberley

1871 - RG10/ Piece 3477/Folio 106/Page 63 - Kimberley, Greasley, Nottinghamshire.
Thomas Sisson, 51 - coal miner, born Strelley
Rachel Sisson, 48 - born Doncaster, Yorkshire
Matthew Sisson, 17  - born Greasley
Ann Sisson, 11 - born Greasley
Elizabeth Sisson, 9 - born Greasley
John Sisson, 7 - born Greasley
Ada Sisson, 4 - daughter born Greasley
Anne R Sisson, 4 - Grandaughter - born Greasley
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1861 - RG9/ 2434/Folio 47/ Page 26 - Kimberley, Greasley, Nottinghamshire.
Thomas Sisson ,41 - coal miner - born Trowel ?, Nottinghamshire
Rachel Sisson ,34 - born Leeds, Yorkshire
William Sisson, 16 - born Greasley
Thomas Sisson, 11 -  born Greasley
Charlotte Sisson, 9 - born Greasley
Matthew Sisson, 7 - born Greasley
Harriett Sisson, 4 - born Greasley
Ann Sisson, 1 - born Greasley

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1851 - HO107/2125/ Folio 195/ Page 2 - Kimberley, parish of Greasley, Nottinghamshire
Thomas Sisson, 30 - coal miner , born Strelley Notts
Rachel Sisson, 27 - domestic work, born Yorkshire
William Sisson, 6 - scholar - born Greasley, Nottinghamshire
Mary Ann Sisson, 5 - scholar - born Greasley, Nottinghamshire
Thomas Sisson, 1 - born Greasley, Nottinghamshire
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Marriage at Bilborough - 25th Dec 1841
THOMAS SISSON & RACHEL JONES

Not sure where Thomas is in 1841 - but I think this is Rachel

1841 - HO107; Piece 856/ Folio: 5; Page: 5 - Bilborough, Nottinghamshire.
William Jones , 40 - Ag Lab - born in county? No
Rachel Jones, 15 - born in county, No
Robert Jones,  14 - born in county, Yes
Sarah Jones,  11 - born in county, Yes
Charles Jones,  4 - born in county, No
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1851 - HO107/ Piece: 2127/Folio 430/Page 12 - Bilborough
William Jones, 52 - Ag Lab - born Shropshire, ??
Mary Jones, 50 - born Yorkshire, Appleton?
Charles Jones, 14 - relation, born Not Known
Sarah Lee, 3 - niece - born Not Known
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In 1861 - William Jones is now a widower still in Bilborough with son in law Joseph Oldham and wife Sarah and family - he gives his place of birth as Shrewsbury
1861 - RG9/Piece/ 2442/ Folio: 76/Page 6 - Bilborough

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Re: births of Charles Wagstaffe and Mary Ann Sisson
« Reply #8 on: Friday 27 August 10 18:42 BST (UK) »
Oops missed a bit off....

It seems Mary Ann can only be found with her family in 1851

1861 - RG9/Piece: 2442/ Folio 89/ Page 3 - Nuthall, Nottinghamshire
Mary Sisson aged 14 - General Servant - born Kimberley

1871 - RG10/Piece 3505/ Folio: 149/ Page 2 - Snenton, Nottingham - District Nottingham Pauper Lunatic Asylum
MARY ANN SISSON, aged 25 - Laundry Maid/general domestic servant -  born Greasley, Nottinghamshire
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