Marriage

[irishistory]

  Hello, I would like some help please looking for a marriage certificate for Mary Jane Carruthers and Thomas Whittey.Carlisle 10b 723, 1871.I would like to see the name of there fathers and who the witnesses were,also the addresses.I know they lived in the Caldewgate district in 1881. I'm hoping somebody can oblige.thanks irishistory.

[lizdb]

I am afraid you will need to buy the cert to see this information.

[irishistory]

  Thanks Lizdb,
                       here in Manchester some of the local history centers have copies of marriage records.I have got a few of these,you are only charged the price of a photo copy compared to £9-25 if you send for the original.The Carrurthers and Whittey wedding was in Carlisle,to far for me to travel at the moment.I just presumed it would be the same in Carlisle and if anybody was there researching they just might have looked for me. Thanks anyway Liz

[sillgen]

Hi
You would need to know exactly where they married to do it that way.  Carlisle is a very big registration district so it could be anywhere.  If you know the church then you can look at the parish register.  If not, then it does mean purchasing the certificate I'm afraid.
Have you found them in 1871?  That might help pin it down.
Andrea

[sillgen]

I can't find them in 1881.  What is the reference?   In 1871 there is a Thomas "Whitty" living with his aunt Margaret Barclay in Caldewgate.  He is 23 and a stoker in the print works.  Does that sound right?  RG10 5221 146 1
Andrea

[irishistory]

Hi Andrea,thanks for the help.I have them in 1881 living at Proutts Court in Caldewgate,Whittey was transcribed wrong,this seems to happen often,by 1891 then are living in Stockport.I did find the Thomas Whitty living with Margaret Barclay in 1871 but i do not recognise the name.I think i found Mary Jane Carruthers in 1861 living at Bridge Terrace,Caldewgate?I think they are church of england,Mary Jane is my great great grannie.Any help with where i might find Parish records online for that area of Carlisle. thanks Andrea. irishistory

[sillgen]

Some Carlisle churches are on the IGI but not all.  Reference for 1881 so we can find it?  What was Thomas' occupation later?   The fact that you do not recognise the name of Margaret Barclay in 1871 is not surprising as this is a generation further back and as yet you do not have any information on them.    I think it is worth a look - if only to dismiss it.   There is a further possible family in 1861 - a 10 year old Thomas so age slightly out.  Again - worth keeping on the back burner, especially as he is with a father called Thomas.  I think you need that marriage certificate!
Andrea

[JenB]

Reference for 1881 so we can find it?

RG 11 / 5159 / 20 / 34.
They are indexed as Whiltey.

Jennifer

[sillgen]

Thanks JenB.  So he is a felt hatter in 1881 - bit of a change from stoker so probably not the right one though stranger things have happened.
Andrea