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Re: Lulworth Cove, O'GORMAN photos?
« Reply #72 on: Thursday 28 May 15 22:28 BST (UK) »
is this it, or am I going in circles?

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01fdj/

do not know if she actually claims it, or it is suggested as such in searches.

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Re: Lulworth Cove, O'GORMAN photos?
« Reply #73 on: Thursday 28 May 15 22:33 BST (UK) »
There was a Sybil Miles living in Kings Weston near Bristol around that time. She was the wife of Philip  Napier Miles, and was born Sybil Marguerite Gonse de Hochepied Larpent in Brighton in 1868. So she would have been a contemporary of Mervyn O'Gorman in Brighton during his childhood.

thats very tantalising. Mervyn didn't spend much time in Brighton as a child, the family were in Warwickshire by April 1873, but the family could easily have kept in touch with their brighton friends...

In the 1871 census Mervyns father Edmond, mother Margaret and half brother Edmond were living at 6 Clifton Terrace.......would you like to live in the house ? You can if you have a spare £300,000 for the one bed maisonette that forms the lower part of that property today !
http://media.rightmove.co.uk/13k/12491/49538500/12491_6CLIFTONTERRACE3_DOC_00_0000.pdf
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Re: Lulworth Cove, O'GORMAN photos?
« Reply #74 on: Thursday 28 May 15 22:39 BST (UK) »
is this it, or am I going in circles?

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01fdj/

do not know if she actually claims it, or it is suggested as such in searches.

gorgeous images on it, but no reference to the child in blue with a dog being by O'Gorman.   The same site does have one of the christina garden images on it, credited (sort of) correctly so i think its picking up that tag line and putting it against all the images in google search.  Very nice images though...
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Re: Lulworth Cove, O'GORMAN photos?
« Reply #75 on: Friday 29 May 15 01:58 BST (UK) »
There was a Sybil Miles living in Kings Weston near Bristol around that time. She was the wife of Philip  Napier Miles, and was born Sybil Marguerite Gonse de Hochepied Larpent in Brighton in 1868. So she would have been a contemporary of Mervyn O'Gorman in Brighton during his childhood.

thats very tantalising. Mervyn didn't spend much time in Brighton as a child, the family were in Warwickshire by April 1873, but the family could easily have kept in touch with their brighton friends...




the Larpent/Melvill, Sybils parents families, lived at 27 Palmeira Square, Brighton, and the Rasch family lived at 25 Palmeira Sq, so looks possible that Mervyn's wife Florence Rasch and Sybil Larpent/Miles were childhood neighbours.   

Sybil & Phillip Miles lived at Kings Weston House, Bristol, designed by Vanbrugh. Looks gorgeous, and I did look to see if the gardens could be the source of the 'Christina' garden images.  doesn't seem so, but what does eveyone else think ?
http://kingswestonhouse.co.uk/ 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kings_Weston_House

Its all very intriguing.

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Re: Lulworth Cove, O'GORMAN photos?
« Reply #77 on: Friday 29 May 15 09:11 BST (UK) »
I think you have found the Links which attribute the pics. to O'Gorman (page) whereas I linked to the pics. only.

Whilst looking, I found an O'Gorman photograph of Bernard Law Montgomery in the 1930's. a fine photograph.
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Re: Lulworth Cove, O'GORMAN photos?
« Reply #78 on: Tuesday 02 June 15 18:47 BST (UK) »
Does he look like Mervyn to you?This was taken in 1913 near Kingsweston house.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/brizzlebornandbred/4652195325/in/faves-kwag/

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/8f/aa/04/8faa0434fbc3a4ca62808ebac79efbf0.jpg

Have to say it doesn't look like him to me, but certainy intriguing....

Whilst looking, I found an O'Gorman photograph of Bernard Law Montgomery in the 1930's. a fine photograph.

do you have a link to the Montgomery photo ?

I'm currently looking at the nieces and great-nieces of Mervyn's wife Florence.  There are several 2nd marriages, and one who ditched her novelist husband and ran off with the chauffuer.  There are candidates in terms of date/age but no-one called Christina has cropped up yet...

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Re: Lulworth Cove, O'GORMAN photos?
« Reply #79 on: Tuesday 02 June 15 19:57 BST (UK) »
The photographs I linked to previously were all accredited to Mervyn O'Gorman. I have no means of verification.

Here's two of him obviously taken by someone else. First is in early RAF uniform and second in Army uniform.

http://aerade.cranfield.ac.uk/arcarimages/his4.jpg.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8233/8491721881_2187063304_b.jpg.

Found Montgomery on another website. This was accredited to Mervyn O'Gorman on original website where I first saw it.

http://media.iwm.org.uk/iwm/mediaLib/21/media-21242/large.jpg.   
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Re: Lulworth Cove, O'GORMAN photos?
« Reply #80 on: Tuesday 02 June 15 20:07 BST (UK) »
Florences brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews and great neices/nephews. 

Florences father Arthur Augustus Rasch (1812-1879) married twice and had 6 children in total.

he married first Mary Letitia Warner (1817-1857) and had 3 sons, 2 daughters

i Arthur Warner (1842-1879)
  m 1875 Georgina Fanny Cafe (1855-1893) had 1 daughter
                Evelyn Mable Warner (1877-1967)
                m 1898 William George Simpson (1873-1961) had 1 daughter
                            Enid Gladys (1900-?)

ii Frederick Charles (1843-1887)
  m 1871 Henrietta Warner (1850-?) had 1 daughter
                 Mildred Alice Sothern (1879-1965)
                 m 1st 1897 Lewis Adolphus De Vic Carey (1871-1936) had 3 daughters, 1 son
                 div 1907
                             Winsome Joyce De Preaux (1897-1994)
                             Joan Mildred Elton (1900-1948)
                             John De Vic (1901-1992
                             Jocelyn Maureen (1903-2000)
                 m 2nd 1909 Frederick Collier (1863-1925)
                             no children             

iii Mary Louisa (1845-1939)
    m 1867 William Hegley Byas (1841-1910) had 3 sons
                Lancelot Arthur William (1868-?)
                m 1888 Violet Graham Stow (1867-1951)
                              Violet Mary Ethel (1889-?)
                              Phylis Kathleen Maud (1893-?)
                Harry Louis (1869-1921)
               
                Cyril Frederick (1870-1936)
               

iv Henry Augustus (1849-1869)
    m 1893 Kate Jane Brown (1859-1928) had 1 son
               Frederick Henry S (1895-1960)
               m 1918 Katie Winifred Potter           

v Florence Catherine (1854-1931)
   m 1897 Mervyn Joseph Pius Gorman (1871-1958)

married secondly Emma Corbett (1822-1895) had 1 son

vi Edward William (1858-1888)
   m 1877 Alice Jane West (1859-1913) had 1 daughter
               Vera Irene (1882-1953)
               m 1st 1899 Horace Wykeham Newte (1870-1949) had 1 daughter
                               Iris Lorna (1899-1900)
               m 2nd 1917 Percy Charles T Keen (1892-?)
                               ?

So far there are 6 vaguely possible contenders for 'Christina', so if anyone can find any photos of any of them that would be good :)

I can't find a marriage for either Harry Louis Byas (1869-1921) or Cyril Frederick Byas (1870-1936).  Cyril dies in South Africa in 1936, and both he and his two brothers seem to make regular trips to south africa and rhodesia so its possible that marriages & births happened there.  Harry dies at his mothers house in Bath, sadly from a self inflicted gun shot wound, and the newspaper reports into his death make no mention of a wife or children.  There are reports that Cyril married Violet Wilhelmina Chapman (posssibly Wilhelmina Violet) and had a son, but can't find anything official...can anyone else find anything ?

 
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