Treanor/Trainer

[McCabe]

lea,

John Treanor (b.1906), became John Jones.  He married Rosina Curtis.  Rosina and John Treanor Jones had a Rosina Jones and a Thomas Jones.  Rosina Jnr married a Topham.  John Treanor Jones was my great grandad.  Thomas Jones was my great uncle and Rosina jnr was my great aunt.   I find genealogy the craziest thing as a result of being disowned by my older sibling early on in life.   I ran into a cousin of my dad's in Goulburn in around 1968.  I was living there and this older man asked me where I was from.  He asked me was I --------'s daughter and I said that I was.  We had a great discussion for an hour or so.  My dad was born in Goulburn and we used to go back each year for the Lilac Festival but my dad's family always kept in touch.  I was kidnapped from my home at pre 6mths by my dad so was always at his business and relatives would call in there as it was where they were used to catching up with him.  These days I dont do family much apart from my immediate family as given the late age of my dad when he married most have floated off to the summerland.  Rosina was descended from a family that came from one of the pirate villages in Cornwall though she wasn't born there.  She is buried at the Anglican cathedral at Goulburn.
 

[McCabe]

John Treanor Jones was born in 1806 not 1906. 

Cheerio.

[lea_18]

thank you so much for your reply.

..Wow..you have just helped solve a great brickwall for me. Rosina arrived alone on the Llala Rookh then, I was not sure if it was her or not.

Rosina jnr is my 2nd great grandmother..the pirate history is interesting as further down this line is a convict from pirates and smugglers in Dorset.!

On Rosina jnrs death her father is stated at Thomas? Son Reginald was informant. This is where my confusion lay, I was looking for a Thomas Jones and not John Treanor Jones..

Rosina jnr's daughter Edith Jessie married a Roberts also from Goulburn, so it seems I have a lot of history in Goulburn re the Topham's, Blackshaws, Roberts and now the Jones's.

Lea

So, was John Treanor a convict in Tasmania? This is why he changed his name.

So you knew Rosina?

thank you so much for clearing things up for me..now I can't wait to find more on Rosina Curtis's pirate family!


Family can be a fickled thing..I know..I was estranged from some of my family for 30 years and now thanks to Genealogy I have been reunited with them..it has been a wonderful thing in my life.

[McCabe]

Rosina jnr came to visit when I was a small child, (I still live in the house I grew up in largely because I have some lovely memories here of my very gorgeous dad (John Thomas Jones) who my son also fortunately took after.  Some of Rosina snrs folk stories got handed down.  Also threads of the seafaring stuff plus the whaling.  The 'Edith' is after John Treanor Jones' dad (my great grandad), who was Edward.  Edith is the feminine for Edward.    JTJ's (b.1806), death is online somewhere as is his freedom from convictism.  I dont keep stuff like that so am not sure where I saw them but the articles  are certainly him.  There is also an invite to Rosina to go to a funeral which  I am not sure she would have as though they werent really catholics they werent presberterians either.  I think the name change may have been more about trying to dodge the stuff happening in nsw in that era.  Thomas Treanor (Trainor) the brother of John Treanor (Jones), was a convict sent to VDL.    Best wishes and bye. 

[ESTHEA]

I know these messages were posted a long time ago, but letting you know my connection.
My mother's mother was ROSINA MATILDA MAUD JONES.
She was the eldest child of WILLIAM JOSEPH TREANOR JONES and EMILY KATE BYRNE [mother was ANN BLACKSHAW]
WILLIAM was the son of JOHN TREANOR JONES and ROSINA MATILDA CURTIS of Rame/Maker Cornwall [ mother a VALLACK]who arrived in Australia 1841
JOHN JONES DIED [ no cert found yet] and his widow remarried. She had no more children.
For some reason the  birth certs of their older children can be found but there is no birth cert for William, born c 1853-54. Therefore I'm not sure exactly how many children John T and Rosina M.M. had as more than one may have gone uncertified.
lee white-[ nee Clough/Ferguson-Jones/Byrne-