John Baker Wright

[AMBLY]

Hi Keyboard86

Hi, just to give a clue possibly on the 1871 she is with her brother John, and is shown as occupation "Landlord income from Rents" In 1881 she is with her other brother Henry possibly and now shown as occupation " Income from Bonds"

You mean the spinster Sarah HOBSON? who is:   
in 1871 Kensington, age 54 at RG10/ Piece: 53/ Folio: 43/ Page: 22
in 1881 Chelsea, age 65 at RG11/ Piece: 76/ Folio: 74/ Page: 24
But she is also in 1861 age 42 in Chelsea , Proprietor of Houses - and again with brother John at:
RG9 /  Piece: 38 /  Folio: 65 /  Page: 2;

I don't think she is the same Sarah (HOBSON - WRIGHT -  ALGAR) of John's search.

John's Sarah appears to be  as I posted earlier  in 1861 & 1871 (see Reply #8)
She seems to be the same Sarah throughout, largely because of the children following on from Census to Census.

This is her, for reference, in 1841:
1841: Regent Terrace - Islington, Finsbury, Middlesex
HO107 /  Piece 665 /  Book: 10 / Folio: 12 /  Page: 19
//
James COLCH?AULE 28, ?? Maker - N
Jane COLCH?AULE 27 - Y
Emily COLCH?AULE 2 - Y
/
Martha HOBSON 50, M.  - Y
Thomas HOBSON 15, Clerk - Y
Sarah WRIGHT 20, M. - Y
John WRIGHT 2 - Y
Alfred WRIGHT 6 months - Y
Louisa DARNELL 19, F.S. - Y
George MESSENGER 1 - Y
//

Cheers
AMBLY

[keyboard86]

Hi sorry for picking a wrong un!

But I noticed on the 1861 census post 8 that Sarah had an "A" as a middle name, this then lead me to do a search for a possible marriage:-

Joseph Algar to Sarah Ann Leath 23rd April 1876 By Banns at St Mary at Lambeth

Hope this helps.

Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

Hi sorry for picking a wrong un!

But I noticed on the 1861 census post 8 that Sarah had an "A" as a middle name, this then lead me to do a search for a possible marriage:-

Joseph Algar to Sarah Ann Leath 23rd April 1876 By Banns at St Mary at Lambeth

Hope this helps.

Keyboard86

Please ignore this lady was a minor!

Will leave alone for rest of night!

Keyboard86

[tony.wright]

I think i probably need to buy the marriage certificate for John Baker Wright 1843 to see who he married at this time!

Tony

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Wow you have all been busy ... whilst I was sleeping.. 
Yes the cert seems the best Idea... I will read through again later and see if I can fathom anything..

I wanted your man to be the 'Beefeater'   

Xin

[AMBLY]

Hi

One the one hand 
The FreeBMD 1843 Marriage entry for :
John Baker WRIGHT, Strand - Vol 1 - Page 280

is incorrect!

The image of the index page clearly shows:
John Daken WRIGHT, Strand - Vol 1 - Page 290

It has also been keyed as the correct entry, showing the bride of this man was
Maria Dorothy Woodrouffe, Ann Lambert, Mary Ann Davidge or Mary Cummings

I can't say for sure if the 'Daken' is a mistake and is meant to be 'Baker'  - but I think "Daken" is probably correct (Dakin, Dacon, Deacon). There is also a George Daken WRIGHT who married in Hackney around the same time period.

On the other hand 
I might've  found John Baker WRIGHT in 1851....

1851: Stroud St "Ship Hotel" - St Mary Trinity, Dover, Kent
HO107 /  Piece: 1632 /  Folio: 541 /  Page: 16
(Visitor*) : John WRIGHT, 38, unm, Gentleman, b Thames Ditton, Surrey  (* implied, ie hotel guest)

The household is:
Head: John BIRMINGHAM, Inkeeper and his family,
17 servants
37 guests - gentleman, valets, coachmen, ladies maids, barristers, merchants etc
None of the 'guests' except the last 5 have a stated 'relationship to head'. The last 5 which are at the top of a new page, are stated to be visitors.

It's the  'Thames Ditton'  PoB which does it for me.
It's the same PoB which George Hayes WRIGHT (b abt 1819),  gives in his 1901 Census. (GHW being the son of William WRIGHT and Susannah Sophia, and brother of John Baker WRIGHT of same parents). GHW's  pob varies in Census, often just "London", or Surrey - which is in keeping with Thames Ditton area.

http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/genuki/SRY/ThamesDitton/
THAMES-DITTON, a parish in the second division of Kingston hundred, county Surrey, 2 miles W. of Kingston, its post town, and 5 E. of Walton-on-Thames. It is a station on the South-Western railway. The village is situated on the S. bank of the river Thames, and is much resorted to by anglers. The parish includes the hamlets of Weston Green, Gigg's Hill, and Ditton-Marsh. In the vicinity are numerous market gardens and a brewery. The village of Long Ditton adjoins this parish

George Hale WRIGHT married Charlotte Bryan YOUNG in 1849, Lambeth. They are on all the Census thru to 1901 (GH dies at end of 1901).  He was a 'Broker, Dealer in Funds',  Member of Stock Exchange' etc.

Cheers
AMBLY

[tony.wright]

Hello Ambly,

This is good stuff - it effectively rules out the 1843 Marriage - for which I was contemplating buying the certificate to see if the marriage was to Sarah Hobson.

As (my) John Wright and Sarah Hobson had their first child (John) in 1839 i would have expected their marriage to be prior to this.

Your lead from the 1851 census could be good also - 'gentleman' could be a term used for a Solicitor and again in 1851 (like 1841) Sarah is shown with the children but no John.

Unless I can find any more John Wrights in both the 1841 and 1851 census (without family and being a Solicitor)?

Are you able to find a John Wright (married to Henrietta) in the 1861 cencus with a birthplace (which matches Thames Ditton Surrey)? and being a Solicitor?

cheers

Tony Wright

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Yes he is in the 1861 census with Thames Ditton birthplace and married to Henrietta (nee Reynolds)  he is down as a proprieter of houses...??  cant read her employment...  address is 237 Harrow Road West.

xin

[tony.wright]

thanks for this - I just need to show John Baker Wright is my John Wright.

Is there any lists/data bases for divorce's from say 1849-1857 which can be accessed - to see if there is a divorce between John Wright and Sarah Wright (nee Hobson)?

Cheers

Tony