Grave - Thomas Price d.12 Feb 1897 Johannesburg

[mrs griff]

Thank you so much for looking , my g-grandfather was John Roberts dob nov 1849 birthplace Caernavon North Wales wife Jane and 4 chidren who where waiting to join him when news came he had been killed , but not certain of date only that his last child was born 1882 and his wife remarried in 1889 , no middle name , I have recived death notices that I found on NAAIRS they were Tab & Kab but they were not him , such a brick wall .

Nat, Kind Regards Mrs Griff

[natceez]

Hello again,
there were many john Roberts on the National Archives database but all of them had middle names and or dates were out. Now, all the references for Deaths on NAAIRS which I told you about are for Death NOTICES - a death NOTICE differs from a death certificate in that the document in "born" at the Master's Office in the event a Testament or Will is lodges. Sorry, should have thought about this earlier - therefore he will not have a Death Notice here in SA - simply because there was no Estate or landed property etc out here.

Are you certain he died in the Transvaal?


1. is there not a death registered for him in Wales -  I am not sure about how re-marriages work over there, but here, if a spouse dies and has minor children, the surviving spouse has to be issued with a re-marriage certificate - that is something you will have to check with the local authorities though. Have you an exact date of re-marriage for his widow? Is there information about how long she was a widow - that might give us more of a lead?
2. check out the local papers for that time- for his home area for a notification of his death.
3. Even condolence messages from family etc may give you more information.
4. A Death Certificate - the Department of Home Affairs civil registration for Transvaal only began in 1901 so no help there.
If I think of anything else I will let you know...
Nat

[mrs griff]

Hello Nat, you have giving me some good information to think about, I am not sure where he was killed ,but family story is that it was a gold mine in SA and I have have had no luck with passenger lists ,it's so frustrating  but I have to try all avenues. thanks once again for your help , I would appreciate if you think of any other area's to research in SA with gold mines  during the time 1882-1889.

Kind Regards Mrs Griff