Child of Thomas Wheeler

[sandra c]

Hi Vicwinann

      Thank you for the information  it will help us. It is another step forward
     
      Sandy

[Richdwm]

Thanks to both - I think we have to discard all Berks possibilities for the line of Daniel, and come back to the Horton Wheelers.

But I don't understand why they don't show up on IGI. Where will my late brother have got the Horton information from?

Richd

[Richdwm]

 Dear Sandi and all

 Another clue in the Daniel Wheeler saga - three of the sons, Meshack, Abednego and Enoch move to Warfield in Berks in the 1740s where there are scores of Wheelers already, presumably so that Daniel and Eliza together with younger children can emigrate to Queensland.

the 1841 census appears (from my reading of IGI) to show that Meshack might be living with Elizabeth Wheeler (b. 1776) there.

Might she be grandmother or maiden aunt?

What do you think??

Richard W

[Vicwinann]

Hello,
I think you meant 1840's. Are you still looking at Horton, Buckinghamshire Wheelers? Or back to the East Hagbourne ones?

If the East Hagbourne ones then Daniel is back there in 1851 (courtesy BFHS cd)
1851 Berks fhs
1690/114/9/38
East Hagbourne all b East Hagbourne
Daniel Wheeler 50 aglab
Eliza 49
Abednego 20 aglab
Enoch 18 aglab
Jane 11
Mary 9
Lucy 4

1851 Berks fhs cd
1690/7/6/18
Aston Tirrold
Shadrach Wheeler 27 Cordwainer East Hagbourne
Hannah 30 Aston Tirrold
Thos Blackall son 3 Aston Tirrold
William 11mth

and Meschach is in Warfield

Berks fhs cd
1694/502/7/22
Meshack Wheeler 24 farm lab Hagbourne
Lucy 24 Warfield
George 3 Warfield
William 2 Warfield
Charlotte 6mth Warfield

In 1861 Daniel and Eliza with two daughters are still in Hagbourne. Abednego and Meshak in Warfield. The latter with apparantly a host of children (familysearch) Shadrach is in Aston Tirrold. Enoch seems to have disappeared.

I would suspect that Meschach in 1841 (familysearch) in Binfield may be Elizabeth's grandson as if born in 1776 she would be a bit old to have had a 14year old son in 1841.

Unfortunately the familysearch censuses are no substiture for the "real" thing because families are often muddled up, so perhaps someone would do a lookup for these families.

Yours
Vicwinann

[Richdwm]

 Many thanks for that - and yes, I did mean 1840!

 Enoch moves that way as well, and marries Charlotte Attfield in Chobham, Surrey and then moves back to Cookham. Interestingly the Attfields appear to have strong connections with Warfield as well.
Meanwhile Mishack and Abednigo marry the Rhodes sisters in Warfield.

The next clue is that a number of the Warfield Wheelers come from Upton, next door to Hagbourne, and Blewbury between Upton and Hagbourne have Wheelers going back into the seventeenth century.

All this points to the Wheelers in Warfield, with their connections to Hagbourne, Upton and Blewbury, being more probable antecedents for Daniel than the Horton lot !

A sight of the 1841 census for Warfield would be a huge help to see who is in which household I guess.

Richard

[sandra c]

HI
    I
      On the 1861 census Abednego place of birth is down as East Hartburn,and he is living with wife Charlotte born at Warfield and the following childrenall born at Warfield
  Lucy 4
  Richard 3

   Sandy

[sandra c]

Hi Richard

       On the 1841 census Meshach Wheeler is living at Murrel Hill Farm Binfield with the following

   Richard Wright
   Mary Hicks
   William Drew
   William Brant
   Arthur Biggs


   Sandy

[Richdwm]

 Thanks for all that Sandy  . A huge help!  I rather think that Mary Hicks at Murrell Hill is the cousin of Daniel Wheeler, so that explains why Meshach goes there. (and she then marries Richard Wright in Reading...)

Richd

[Richdwm]

 Sandy (and others!) 

I have been revisiting Daniel wheeler father of Shadrack and I find that others are putting him down as born in Wokingham 21/10/1803 twin of William, brother of Dorothea (30/4/02), son of Daniel b1749 and Elizabeth Ann Lawrence b 1/10/1773 Wokingham, d of John and Mary Lawrence.

I cannot remember if we rejected this possibility? His grandsons Mishach and Abednego come back to Warfield which is only 2 or 3 miles from Wokingham so it seems possible.

What do you think?

Richd