1891 Census Islington Area Joseph North

[GeoffP]

Hi,
Can anybody help me trace Joseph North or Augusta North on 1891 Census.

What I have is 1891 Census
                                              Augusta Pierce age 42 b Islington.
                                              Stella Pierce age 1 b Enfield
Living at 40 Grafton Road

In 1901 Stella had become Stella North living at 2 Baronsmere Rd, Finchley. RG13/1234
No record of Augusta North or Peirce on 1901 Census.

I have marriage cert. of Stella North still living at 2 Baronsmere Rd, father Joseph North(deceased) and witness Augusta North.
This was in 1914.

I have traced a death of Joseph North in Islington Sept Q 1898 age 48. This is likely to be father of Stella.

WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR IS SOME RECORD OF JOSEPH NORTH IN 1891.

This would greatly help my research. Thank you
                                                         Regards
                                                                      Geoff
                                                           

[casalguidi]

Hi Geoff

I've had a look and there were quite a few Joseph NORTHs of about the right age to be Augusta's father in London and Middlesex .............. the ones that I did pick out were accounted for so I can't, at this stage, see any way of telling just which one, if any, could be Stella's father.

Sorry 

Casalguidi

[GeoffP]

Hi Casalguidi,
Thanks for your message. It seems that Augusta had Stella out of wedlock. and changed her name later to North. It could well be that Joseph North was already married. I have never traced a marriage of Augusta Peirce with Joseph North. Are there any in your findings who would be born about 1950 (Augusta was born 7/4/1849) probably in Islington or certainly the London area. Stella was born in Enfield but lived with a sister of Augusta who also changed names. It is a complicated and confusing situation.
Any ideas or help. Many thanks
                                                     Geoff

[GeoffP]

Sorry meant born 1850 Geoff

[casalguidi]

Hi Geoff

Some of the 1891 entries for a Joseph NORTH connected with London/Middlesex

32 b.Enfield in Cheshunt Herts
37 b.Potters Bar Middlesex in South Mimms Middlesex
64 b.Bethnal Green in BG
36 b.Leeds Yorkshire in Bethnal Green
31 b.Holborn in Clerkenwell
69 b.Shoreditch in Hackney
48 b.Wendlebury Oxfordshire in Islington
45 b.Bethnal Green in Shoreditch
28 b.Mile End in Stratford le Bow

The one in Islington:

1891

512 Hornsey Rd, Islington

Joseph NORTH visitor mar 48 b.Wendlebury Oxfordshire (no occupation given)
Elizabeth wife 42 b.Chesterton Oxfordshire

They were staying with a William & Lucy PLANT & family (greengrocer).  William 47 b.Charndon Buckinghamshire & Lucy 46 b.Chesterton Oxfordshire

RG12/146 folio 41 page 79

Casalguidi

[GeoffP]

Hi Casalguidi,
Again many thanks. I will follow that up and see where it leads me. Appreciate your time.
                                         Regards
                                                      Geoff

[casalguidi]

Hi Geoff

That one in Islington 1891 - he was still with his wife in 1901 but in Enfield 

1901

Plumridge Farm, Enfield

Joseph NORTH head mar 56 farm bailiff b.Wendlebury Beds
Elizabeth wife 53 b.Chesterton Beds

RG13/1271 folio 21 page 33

Casalguidi

[GeoffP]

Hi Casalguidi,

That is most interesting as Stella was born in Enfield. Problem is how to sort out the facts from possibilities of illicit relationships.  Thanks
                                    Geoff

[casalguidi]

Yes.  I assume that you have Stella's birth and/or baptism and that there are no clues there?

I couldn't identify Augusta NORTH (or whatever her name was) in 1901 either    Perhaps she is living under yet another name or badly mistranscribed somewhere 

Good luck .................. I think you'll gonna need it!

Casalguidi