mother of Jeanie (Jenny) Copley Smith?

[truebritmega]

Hi there.. im looking for the mother, of a Jenny (thats her birth name) Copley Carr (copley is her middle name, shes not a double barelled coply-carr lol)

Birth:  Jun 1844 - Sheffield, South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding

Her dads name is James Carr, born 1810, Hunslet,Leeds but I cant seem to find the mothers name, some have suggested "Martha" but I havent found anything definitive yet

Anything? anyone? I dont really want to have to get her birth certa as this is a more distant line of the tree

[Christine in Portugal]

From the 1851 it appears her mother's name was Martha.



Jenny C Carr born Sheffield living Queen St, Huddersfield


James Carr    41  Wesleyan minister
Matha Carr    34
Hannah M Carr    12
Charlotte Carr    11
Thos A Carr    8
Jenny C Carr    6
James W Carr    4
Galland Carr    1
Frances C Carr    2 months
Eliza I Sarkin    19   governess
Mary Haigh    40   servant
Elizabeth  Boothroyd    15   servant


 HO107
 Piece: 2295
 Folio: 306

Christine

[truebritmega]

well done christine!!... and all the way from Portugal too! (ahhh, portugal, heat, sun...... looks out the wimdow and watches the rain lol )...

so now I need track down her maiden name....

[LizzieW]

Martha was born in Lincolnshire and there is a marriage in Louth in September 1838 of a James Carr to a Martha Hay. Ref Sept,1838, Louth 14 621.

Could be your couple.

Lizzie

[LizzieW]

According to 1851 census, Martha was born in Holton le Clay, Lincs and on the Pilot IGI site, there is a birth of a Martha Hay 11 Feb 1816, parents Thomas Hay and Ann.

Lizzie

[LizzieW]

And also on the pilot site, there is a birth of a James Carr 05 Jun 1809, in Birstall, Yorkshire, parents Joseph Carr and Sarah.  Interestingly, given that he was a Wesleyan minister on the 1851 census, this was a non-conformist record.

Lizzie

[truebritmega]

Oh well done Lizzie, that looks like it is her:) ?? thank you both, very much

[truebritmega]

yes that is interesting, but I did also find a birth for James on the IGI for 1819 too, with the Hunslet address for his birth (hi father also was from hunslett  and from google books results, i saw a piece about james's father (i think) as it told of a ...pastes..

Jane (Jenny) Copley (Gen. II) Jane was baptized in Arian Chapel on Dec. 25, 1769. She is called Jenny in her father's will (1787). At the time of the settling of her father's estate, she was married to James Carr of Hunslet

which would seem to fit, seeing as Our James.. was also found born in Hunslet, and named his daughter Jenny Copley?

[LizzieW]

That sounds plausible until you look at the 1851 census, where James' birth place was given as Leeds (Birstall is about 6 miles from Leeds) and his age was given as 40, meaning he would have been born around 1810.

Lizzie