Emma CREEDY

[krisesjoint]

Hi Jenny,

The proof is the 1851 census where young Eliza is listed as wifes daughter to George Fry. His wife is Ann. Ann/Nancy are often interchangeable as are Emma/Amy. Even using sites like the IGI when you ask for Emma you will be given Amy, when you ask for Amy you will be given Emma as well. Ask for Ann you will get hits for Nancy - Ask for Nancy you will be given Ann's as well.

Cheers Kris 

[boneman]

Please bear with me!

My wife's father's mother was Eileen Pretoria O'Donnell. Of that I have documentary evidence (birth certificate). I am awaiting a confirmation birth certificate for EP at the moment. I am quite sure that her father was John O'Donnell (1853-). His wife was Emma Ann Nutty (1861-1909) They were in Kent at the beginning of 1900's. They had quite a few children. John was a soldier and the some kind of builder(?) and moved about a bit. John and Emma married in chelsea (I found the wedding bann). Emma Ann's father was William J Nutty (1834-1898) and he was married to Emma Creedy 1826-(I hope!)

That is what I have, is it enough?

Just had confirmation that EP's mother was a Emmeline O'Donnell nee Nutty. I cannot find and Emmeline anywhere on Ancestry but the marriage documents (see above) confirm an Emma. It seems she was a Matron at SS Greenstreet at Shorncliffe Camp in 1900. I cannot find out anything about that either!

Thanks for your patience.

[krisesjoint]

Hi,

I have looked at the marriage cert for John O'DONNELL and Emma Ann NUTTY, 5 Jun 1878 Emma was 21 a spinster father William John NUTTY a carpenter. She lists in the census as born in Wells Somerset so yes I agree, you have the correct person. John was a soldier at the time of marriage and lists as being in the Army Service Corps in 1881, 1891 and still a barracks lab in 1901 so he was a career soldier. Naming his daughter Eileen Pretoria, I wonder if he was involved in the Boer War when Pretoria surrendered in 1900 - the name certainly had meaning to him anyway, hence his daughters name in that particular year. The name Pretoria was used in a lot of names in 1900.

I wouldn't be too concerned about Emmeline instead of Emma Ann. Emmeline is really just another version of Emma. (sounds a bit more classy) Also could you have wrongly read Emma Ann as Emmeline? Easily done.

I am sorry I have no military expertise to help with John's career. Someone on the armed forces board may be able to help further with that. All the best.

Cheers Kris 

[boneman]

Thanks for all the information, now back to Emma Creedy!

[pgmpgm]

Boneman,

Just discovered this thread.  Are you still interested in Emma Creedy, baptised on 1 March 1826, and her parents?  If so, I have information.