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Emma CREEDY
« on: Saturday 21 August 10 12:31 BST (UK) »
Born in Wells in 1776. I am looking for a husband, can anyone help?

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Re: Emma Creedy
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 21 August 10 12:44 BST (UK) »
If you are 234 years old I wish you a great deal of luck with your toyboy!  ;D

But to be serious, you can't have just plucked this name out of thin air, more information would be needed to look at your request, where have you got her name from? perhaps as the mother of children in a census? how would you know Creedy was her maiden name rather than married name?
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: Emma Creedy
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 21 August 10 13:16 BST (UK) »
Ooops!

She was my wifes GGG Grandmother.

This is how it looks.
          Gran            Great Gran           Great, Great   GGG Gran
Wife-E.O'Donnell-Emma Anne Nutty-Emma Creedy-Emma Creedy (Could have been born in Abingdon)
1959-1900-         1861                      1826              abt1778

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Re: Emma CREEDY
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 21 August 10 20:22 BST (UK) »
Still no idea how she connects, how do you know where she might have been born, something must have given you a clue, and how do you know if Creedy is her maiden name or surname.

We need the evidence for her that you have.
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)


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Re: Emma CREEDY
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 22 August 10 09:20 BST (UK) »

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Re: Emma CREEDY
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 22 August 10 12:54 BST (UK) »
Sorry I don't see any mention of Emma Creedy on that Rootschat post.

I notice that many question had to be asked on that post also to get some information to begin searching for you. 

To provide a link to your tree, on Ancestry where a subscription is required to view it, and expect somebody to work it out to give you assistance is, I find very lazy.

My questions were relevant before I could begin to search.

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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: Emma CREEDY
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 22 August 10 13:00 BST (UK) »
My apologies

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Re: Emma CREEDY
« Reply #7 on: Monday 23 August 10 01:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Boneman,

Perhaps you should start again. What do you know about Emma born in 1826? We are trying to help you but I am afraid your tree is of no value to us. We need to know exactly what you know of Emma herself. In future please take a little time to  tell us exactly what you do know about the person you are seeking help with.

Trying to sort this out - I see Emma in 1841 in Water Lane St Cuthbert in and out aged 15 Ind born in the county . She is living with Emma CREEDY aged 60 not born in the County a Shop Keeper. Also in the household we have Eliza CREEDY aged 10 ind. Given the age of these girls particularly the younger one it seems risky to assume Emma is their mother. Adult ages are rounded down in 1841 therefore Emma the senior could be as old as old as 64. HO107/962/9 Folio 9 Page 9.

Now looking at 1851 I note Emma the senior is listed as John Street Wells in St Cuthbert . HO107/1934 Folio 344 Page 45. She is aged 73 a widow born Abingdon BERKSHIRE. (Grocer) Living with her is young Emma aged 25, a shopwoman born in Wells. She is listed as daughter. Perhaps she is - it is just barely possible - perhaps she is not. What becomes of young Emma after this? I don't see her. Does she marry?  If so the first thing you will need to do is purchase that marriage cert to ascertain her fathers name. Like Mary I can't follow what you have said either. Please take your time to tell us exactly what you know when requesting help.

Now Eliza FRY aged 20 is listed as wifes daughter to George and Ann FRY in St Cuthbert In. HO107/1934 Folio 347 Page 50 (a few pages away but also in St John Street) Ann FRY is 36 and born in Wells. In 1841 Anne CREEDY is 25 in Southood St Cuthbert. She is 25 a dressmaker born in the County. She is living with George FRY aged 20 a lab. George and Emma are next door to John 50 FRY a lab and his wife Sarah and family. Clearly Ann is too young to be Emma's mother but there is certainly a connection here.  For interest there is a John aged 33 along with his wife Susan in Wells.

Cheers Kris  :)
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Re: Emma CREEDY
« Reply #8 on: Monday 23 August 10 02:11 BST (UK) »
Now Anne was a spinster at the time of marriage to George FRY

http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Marriages&RecordID=571524

Father JOSEPH

Unfortunately John's marriage was too early to list his father, but he does seem to like the name Joseph for his children

http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Marriages&RecordID=571195.

Now there is a marriage for a Joseph CREEDY in 1801

http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Marriages&RecordID=570148

wife Amy BRADLEY (Now the names Amy and Emma can be interchangeable)

There is an Amey BRADLEY baptised 4 Mar 1778 East Hendred Berkshire parents Willm and Eliz (certainly in the right area both Abingdon and East Hendred now in Oxfordshire)

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true

Perhaps Emma really is Emma's daughter (her last child) but I doubt it. There are several baptisms listed to Joseph and Amy/Amey/Amelia/Emma

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=1408347;p=2;t=searchable

If your Emma did marry the marriage cert is the only way forward.  ;) Lets see if a father is listed. (although we often find illegitimate children quite often tend to list a grandfather as their father at time of marriage) Emma senior has one illegitimate granddaughter living with her in 1841 - I would have to wonder if perhaps she has two. I have had no luck with a baptism for young Emma. Eliza Amelia CREEDY was baptised to Nancy CREEDY (an alternative to Ann) 25 Dec 1830 St Cuthbert.

Cheers Kris  :)
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