Author Topic: Halpins of Wicklow - Part 3  (Read 122261 times)

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #207 on: Friday 04 November 11 23:57 GMT (UK) »
Parish of St.Thomas Cont.
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The usual "health warning".

Proposition:  George Halpin (Senior) may have married twice.
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A badly scorched and crumpled record in the St.Thomas records, dated July 31st 1825, reads as follows:

“The entry of the baptism of Frederick Halpin dated 25th October 1818 should be the son of George and Elizabeth.
The entry of Mr.George Halpin’s three children on the 17th of July 1823 should be of George and Isabella instead of George and Elizabeth which was entered by mistake.”



Comments:

George and Isabella had at least three children: George (junior), Oswald and Isabella (Louisa?).

George married Elizabeth Bowen/Bowyn 17 Aug 1817 and had, at least, the following children:

(1) Frederick baptised 25th Oct 1818
(2) Arthur baptised 5th Jul 1820 (the name is a bit smudged but I’m happy it’s Arthur).
(3) Charlotte baptised 13th Jan 1822
(4) John or Grace baptised 15th or 22nd June 1823 (crumpled and misaligned so difficult to decide the correct name and date.)
(5) Sidney baptised 12th Sept 1824.  (Note: James Halpin of Wicklow had a “Sidney” two years later in 1826).

I’ve edited my post #202 above to reflect the dates 1823 and a note referring to 1825.

I’m sure the above is going to create a lot more questions but for now, hopefully, you have Elizabeth’s maiden name, Frederick’s Baptism and his relationship to George (Junior). Also most important for all you Wicklow/Dublin Halpins 4 more members of the family.

Hope this is of interest,
Tavern



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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #208 on: Tuesday 08 November 11 22:19 GMT (UK) »
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Burial Record 10th May 1822 Charlotte Halpin aged 3 months.

This looks like George and Elizabeth's daughter mentioned above who was baptised 13 Jan 1822.

Had a second look at item (4) above "John or Grace". I'm happy this reads:

John baptised 15th June 1823 of George and Elizabeth Halpin.

Regards,
Tavern

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #209 on: Thursday 10 November 11 11:20 GMT (UK) »
Have been absent for a while, but still thinking of you all. What do you think of this interesting find?

The Wicklow Town Commissioners Rental of the Corporation Estate, 1860, Wicklow:
                                      Printed by William McPhail, Main Street.

Wicklow Corporation Rentals, 1860

Page
 No.     No of Lease   Lessees   Name of Under Tenant   Description of Holding   Where situated   Contents in Statute Measure   Date of Lease   Term   Year’s Rent   Griffith’s Valuation   Leases when Expire   Observations
1   38   Thomas Halfpenny by Mrs Gregg   1 tennant   Thatched cabin & garden   Colley-street
      25th March 1763   99 yrs
   6s.6p   £2.15.0
   25 March 1862   
1   51   Archibald H. Foulks by Robert Gun Cunningham    Dr. George Halpin   House & Yard
   South Quay      25th March 1775
   99 yrs      £21.0.0   25 March 1874   
2   65   James Halpin & Miss Halpin   Government    Coast Guard House   North Quay      29th Sept 1822
   99 yrs   £1.2.2.
   £12.0.0.   29 Sept 1921   
...   ...   James Halpin & Miss Halpin   Francis Synge Esq.   Stores & Yard
   North Quay      29th Sept 1822
   99 yrs
      £9.0.0.

   29 Sept 1921   
2   66   Ditto by Miss Halpin   John Byrne   Stables & Coach House
   Bond St.       29th Sept 1827
   99 yrs
   £2.17.6                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            £6.0.0.   29 Sept 1926   
...   ...   ditto   Wm Halpin & Others   3 new slated houses & yard   Ditto      Ditto   99 yrs
      £15.0.0.   ...   
2   68   James Halpin & Miss Halpin   Mr. Marshall   Bridge Hotel   Bridge-street      29th Sept 1831   99 yrs
   £6.17.7   £40.0.0.   29 Sept 1930   
3   81   Robt. H. Thomas  by Miss Halpin      Walled in yard   Bath-street      25th March 1835   99 yrs
   £1.15.0.   £3.0.0.    25th March 1934   
3   108   James Halpin &
Edwd. Kinshela      2 Thatched houses   Colley Well      25th March 1851   31 yrs   5s. 3d.   £2.0.0.   25 March 1872   
3   109   James Halpin by
Mrs Gregg   William Bennett & Others   6 slated dwellings ditto   Bond St.      Ditto   75 yrs   £5.0.0.   £21.15.0
   25 March 1916   
4   151   John Byrne & Frederick Halpin by Ditto   Miss Halpin,

Ditto   Dwelling House, Stable & Yard   South Quay      29th Sept 1856
   74 yrs   £10.0.0.   £20.15.0
   29 Sept 1930   
4   172   Dr. George Halpin   self   House & Yard
   South Quay      25th March 1856   yearly   £2.0.0.   £8.0.0.   29 Sept 1930   
Doyle, Malone, Ryan, Wicklow.
Murray of Arklow.
(O)Carroll of Annamoe, & Cornagower, Brittas, Wicklow, & Co Carlow.
Waters, Haughton, Leviston, Goggin. Kavanagh Wicklow.
Lavender and Newman of Ballyhad, Rathdrum.

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #210 on: Thursday 10 November 11 11:22 GMT (UK) »
hope you can follow, it did not print as arranged
Doyle, Malone, Ryan, Wicklow.
Murray of Arklow.
(O)Carroll of Annamoe, & Cornagower, Brittas, Wicklow, & Co Carlow.
Waters, Haughton, Leviston, Goggin. Kavanagh Wicklow.
Lavender and Newman of Ballyhad, Rathdrum.


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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #211 on: Tuesday 15 November 11 19:29 GMT (UK) »
I hope I am successfully attaching images of a stamp issued and a coin stamped, each bearing the image of Captain Robert Charles Halpin 1836-1894.

A summary from a cousin in Australia re the coin:  Re Captain Halpin's face on a silver coin, I have been endeavoring to purchase one. They were
commemorative  coins and not legal tender. The Captain's estate provided a foundation with funds for charity which lasted  many years. The coin has a  seamen's orphanage on the reverse side and was awarded annually for outstanding junior swimming champions. The image was sourced from the Internet.

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #212 on: Wednesday 16 November 11 08:44 GMT (UK) »
I have the stamp, but didn't know about the coin, what is the story behind it?

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #213 on: Wednesday 30 November 11 00:54 GMT (UK) »
Following Tavern's discoveries from the very difficult records of St Thomas Dublin, my George Halpin family has been quite transformed.  I have attached a report reflecting the current situation. A number of assumptions and leaps of faith have been taken, out of necessity or application of judgement.

George and now discovered first wife Isabella's first known child was George junior.  Death and other reports indicate he was born around 1804 but his baptism was in 1808.  Therefore we can only estimate that George and Isabella married anytime from 1803 to 1807.  There are indications that their marriage may not have been in the same diocese.  Wexford or Waterford are possibilities, even Meath.  At the time, George was tackling the modernisation of the Port of Dublin.  I believe that he travelled to England and possibly Scotland to research latest dredging and harbour building techniques.  It is even possible that George met Isabella in his travels within Ireland or abroad and they married at her church, wherever that was, and not in Dublin.  It is my sincerest hope that one day we come upon this marriage to find out whom my ancestor Isabella was.  Does the name of her second son, Oswald, contain a clue?

Isabella’s last recorded child was Isabella, baptised January 1812.  George remarried in 1817, so Isabella could have died at any time between those events.  It is likely that she died in Dublin and her burial record is one of the very many St Thomas records lost or damaged.  However, in 1810, George was given additional responsibilities as the Inspector of Light(house)s, entailing his visiting all parts of the Irish coast.  If Isabella ever accompanied him, it is possible she could have died away from Dublin and her death may yet be found.

The most difficult decision has been what to do with George’s daughter Louisa who died in Wicklow in 1834.  Tavern and I have both come tentatively to the conclusion that Isabella’s last child Isabella was in fact “Isabella Louisa”.  There are some date and age issues but they are explicable.  From about 1814 to 1818, George would have been a frequent visitor to Wicklow designing and building his two new lighthouses there.  His brother James had married in 1815 and surely George stayed with James at the Bridge Hotel on his visits, sometimes with young Isabella Louisa.  When George remarried in 1817, did James and Ann offer to take the young girl and, in their family habit, call her by her middle name?  (Or was she even Louisa Isabella?)

Completely unknown to me were not only that Elizabeth was George’s second wife (and not my ancestor) but also that they had more children.  This may in part be because it seems that none of them survived to George’s death except Frederick, and he not long after that.  Out of so many children it seems only George junior produced descendants, from his very peculiar marriage.

Junior’s first child was named Isabella Julia Villiers in honour of his dead mother and his wife.  Her first child, grandchild and great granddaughter were all named Isabella Julia.  The first child of Junior’s son George was named Mary Isabella, Mary being his wife’s mother’s name.  So, the family did its best to commemorate Isabella, whom we have only recently discovered, thanks to Tavern.

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #214 on: Wednesday 30 November 11 04:51 GMT (UK) »
OSWALD
Marriage at St Mark Church of Ireland Dublin, Oswald Edwards to Mary Wickham on 14 June 1778, no other details.  The date allows this couple to have been the parents of Isabella.  If so, she was Isabella EDWARDS before marriage.

Possible brothers of Isabella?:
Oswald ROBINSON, bap 27/1/1782, Kill St Nicholas Waterford to Richard and Margaret Robinson. [Oswald used down generations of this family.]
Oswald MONTGOMERY, death 1866 Cavan age 77, estimated birth 1789. 

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #215 on: Wednesday 30 November 11 05:27 GMT (UK) »
Who might this JULIA HALPIN have been?

1848 Dublin directory entry:  Halpin Julia 4 Newfoundland street, and Light House, North Wall. 

Parliamentary Papers, Public Works and Buildings ... year ending 31 March 1849:  For Pension to ..... Julia Halpin, superannuated Head Nurse of Richmond Surgical Hospital - 51yo - 11 years service - £15 p/a (p.139)

If she was 51 in 1848, she was born about 1797, too old to be  George and James's sister and also too old to be George's child.  And yet, she appears to have lived at that time partly in George's home at the North Wall Light and partly in one of his probable properties.

If she worked as a nurse, does that imply she would not have married?  Or perhaps as a widow, could she have returned to work she had done prior to marriage?  I am exploring the possibility that she may be a sister-in-law.

Or, could she have been a child of George's possible older brother, Richard?  We really have to sort out the Richard Halpins.

George's wife Elizabeth died in 1850 "after a long and painful illness" (Dublin Evening Mail).  Perhaps this Julia was nursing Elizabeth at home during this long illness.  But who was she?  Where does she fit into the family?  Is she a link to another family member?