Halpins of Wicklow - Part 3

[Diane Carruthers]

Bill,

Captain John Halpin was born July 3, 1805 and died November 30, 1848 in Berhampore, India. His obituary states he was a surveyor and Orientalist.  His obituary was in the Anglo-Celt.

Nicholas John Halpin B.A., M.B., B.Ch., M.D.1879, T.C.D. Surgeon 1876, L.K.Q.C.P. 1881 That was the education listed on the piece about his medal.

Diane

Diane, I think this is the same man that was part of Ray's original family tree at about page 1 or 2 of the first list.  He somehow gave the exact date of birth, 12 Sept 1851 and the qualifications ICS, which is for a surveyor.  There needs to be some sorting out.  Maybe he became a doctor as well as a surveyor.  Did he go to Trinity College?  Was he the one Ray referred to as the noted orientalist?

[tavern]

                                                                                                 The Marine Hotel, Wicklow and the Halpin connection.

 Griffith’s Valuation:  Corporation Murragh, County of Wicklow, Parish of Rathnew, (Ord. S.25) No. 1.a  TENANT Wicklow Loan Fund Society. IMMEDIATE LESSORS Town Commissioners of Wicklow.
 This loan Fund Society built a Technical-Trades School on this site on the Murrough in the 1840’s for the local children which lasted into the 1850s.
The building was then converted into an Hotel by ”The  Wicklow Railway Hotel Co.” and was opened  in 1858. It lasted as an Hotel until about 1879.
It's location is on the east side of the river Leitrim and about 300 yards from the Bridge Hotel.


The Wicklow Newsletter of July 24th 1858 had the following notice, on its front page:

Wicklow Races on the 27th and 28th July instant
Opening of the new hotel, Wicklow.
Wicklow Railway Hotel Company
(Limited).

This hotel situated in the centre of the race course, on the Murragh of Wicklow, will open for business on TUESDAY, the 27Th instant, under the superintendence of Mrs. Goodland, whose experience in Hotel arrangements is a sufficient guarantee that the comfort of visitors will be attended to.
A choice and various selection of Wines, of the most approved brands, have been secured for this Establishment.
Rooms will be set apart for dining, where dinner can be had at any hour throughout the days of races.

By Order:
ROBERT HALPIN, Sec.
July 24, 1858.

F.Halpin the proprietress of Halpins Bridge Hotel wrote to the editor of the “Wicklow Newsletter”, which was also published on the front page, on the same day, as follows:

Sirs,- I beg to contradict a puff advertisement which has often appeared in your paper and which was evidently calculated to mislead the public. There is more than one hotel contiguous to the railway terminus and in each hotel there is much more accommodation than they have demand for. The Bridge Hotel is within a few hundred yards of the railway terminus and has extensive accommodation. It is kept by members of the same family who kept it a century ago and who are not in any way related or connected with the party whose signature has so often been appended to that very appropriate advertisement, ‘The Limited Company’.
I am sir, your obedient,
F.Halpin
P.S. The Green Tree Hotel is also within a short distance of the terminus.

NOTE: F. Halpin is saying that the Halpins of the Bridge are NOT related to the Robert Halpin, Secretary of the Wicklow Railway Hotel Co. Limited.
The Marine today (2010) is an “Educate Together” National School. It opened as such in September 2003.
 During the 1950’s and 1960’s the Rathdrum Sisters of Mercy used to bring the children in their care on holidays to the Marine.

Regards,
Tavern

[Shanachai]

     That's a brilliant find, Tavern - and very telling.  Naturally, it contradicts what I've been led to believe.  I don't know what to say. 
     As far as the general point of the site goes - to locate information on the three (?) branches of the Halpin family, and to connect them wherever and whenever possible - the information you've uncovered changes nothing.  It simply suggests that I have plenty to think about, which should not distract or deter anyone else from making further contributions to the forum. 
     The power of lore is very convincing, and I'll admit to being a little deflated by Mrs. F Halpin's stroppy dissociation from the Wicklow Town Clerk. 
     Bloody hell - what am I going to tell the relatives?
 
 

[Diane Carruthers]

Hi Bill,

I am not sure if Frederick was related to John or Caroline to Jane but I have some information on Frederick Horatio Halpen.

He was on the 1841 census for Greenwich , Kent, gives his occupation as banker . On his children's baptisms he is said to be the manager of the London and County Bank. Caroline died December 1, 1840 in Greenwich as did 3 or 4 of his children. He married again to Eliza Sarah Wolfenden.  From the 1851 census to his death in 1877 he resided in Birkenhead, Cheshire. On the 1851 census his occupation is Pensioner R I C and shipping.  His children were born in Bristol, Kent, Liverpool and Birkenhead.
 
It seems to rule him out for our Fredericks.

Diane

I have come across a curious duplication of names that has to make some of us wonder.  Earlier, Ken drew attention to:
John Halpin, who married Jane Stamer at St Peter's on 18.8.1786 was the bookseller (& libeller).
I can't find the page now, I think it must be from the Oxford DNB:
John Halpin,  bookseller, 55 Henry St 1786-1795, Sackville St 1796-1810, mar. Aug.1786 Jane, dau of late Thomas Stamer of Co Clare. Will proved 1811, succeeded by wife, Jane. [Reply #203 on: Tuesday 19 January 10]
Browsing for something completely different I have found the following:
At Clontarf, near Dublin, F.H. Halpin, esq. E.I.C. to Caroline, dau. of Sir W. Stamer, Bart.    [Gentleman's Magazine Dec 1830. Marriage 12 Nov 1830 ]
Was this FH Halpin related to John Halpin and was Caroline related to Jane?  Who was FH Halpin?  The only Frederick Halpins that I am aware of were Frederick James Halpin, school proprietor of Sandymount , his son Frederick Webster Halpin and Captain Frederick Halpin of Wicklow.  The last was probably too young and not known to have been with the East India Company.

[BillW]

Tavern, does any evidence confirm F(rances) Halpin's allegation that the Bridge Hotel "is kept by members of the family who kept it a century ago" (i.e. the 1750s)?  Is this Halpin family in any local church or other records that may exist from that far back? 
One of my theories (naturally enough seeking confirmation or rejection) has been that James (and William?) Halpin had come from elsewhere to Wicklow, possibly through marriage or other alliance to any of the Halbert, Eaton or Cotter families who did have roots in Wicklow.
William Halpin who, from his declaration of age, was born about 1777, declared in the 1861 England Census that he was born in Wicklow but this may have been made by his son and daughter with whom he was living.  I have seen evidence that some of his children were baptised in Wicklow around the turn of the century.
I suppose it is possible to construe Frances Halpin's allegation as being that the hotel had been in her mother's family from that far back.

[BillW]

Three years after Frances Halpin's efforts above, as Tavern showed, she married.  The marriage was at St Anne's C of I in Dublin and the record can be viewed at the free site: http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/reels/d-344-3-3-114.pdf.
It shows that her husband, DAVID CRAWFORD, was a widower in the 'Merchant Service’, son of HUGH CRAWFORD, occupation merchant.  It is recorded that they both resided at 34 St (or Sth) Anne St. (Dublin) and that her father was James Halpin, hotel keeper.  She is recorded as Frances Anne and signs herself Fanny.  Witnesses were John Clements and R Morrison.  Fanny was about 35.
We have seen posted here recently by Ray from HCPP records of voter registrations that together in the Dublin Corporation of Carpenters at the one time (1830) were: Battersby, Brownrigg (2), Cotter (2), Crosthwaite, Eaton (2), George Halpin and William Halpin with a William GORE.  The majority of these families have connections with Wicklow.
Married five years earlier than Fanny and David Crawford, at St Peter C of I Dublin in 1857, were William Jamieson Esq of Co Cavan to Elizabeth GORE of 20 Rathmines Rd, widow, daughter of HUGH CRAWFORD Esq.  So that is Elizabeth Crawford, presumably a sister of David Crawford, who had been married to a Gore. 
There are also scanty Dublin C of I records of a Hugh Crawford as early as the mid 1700s, a name that got carried on.
To round off this dissertation is to wonder why, of seven known children born to WILLIAM HALPIN, only the last was given more than one Christian name and that full name was ROBERT CRAWFORD HALPIN, born Antwerp, or France, about 1816.

[mkent]

Iwas interested to see that the Marine Hotel was set near Wicklow Rscecourse, my Grandmother always used to tell me there was once a racecourse, but I am ashamed to say I never believed her!  Sorry Granny! 

[tavern]

A few comments /observations on the last few postings:

1.   David Crawford and Frances Halpin were living in South Anne Street, Dublin at the time of their wedding in 1862. The Bridge Hotel was Let in 1859 to Richard Marshall  who was of the Wicklow & Wexford Hotel also South Anne Street, Dublin?

2.   According to the Reg. Of Deeds, 1866,  David Crawford was “of Ardrossan in the county of Ayr" – Merchants.


3.   Interesting why George Halpin is one of the contact names for the sale of the Lease on the Bridge and not Frances or Louisa?


More anon
Regards,
Tavern

[BillW]

This is likely Dr George Halbert Halpin, elder brother of Frances and Louisa, rather than George Halpin in Dublin.

3.   Interesting why George Halpin is one of the contact names for the sale of the Lease on the Bridge and not Frances or Louisa?