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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #144 on: Tuesday 14 December 10 23:06 GMT (UK) »
Well Tavern, what a bolt from the blue.  I have been expecting something significant from your researches that would point us backwards but not quite this.  I am stunned, thrilled, confused and a myriad other reactions.  Not that the actual relationship was unlikely, just to receive it so plainly and incontrovertibly demonstrated, after all this time.  And now further, to add Captain Frederick Halpin as one of my immediate relatives.

The details of the evidence point to much further research and speculation.  For a start –

1)    I sense a family split.  There is no other Frederick in the George Halpin families.  As you say, George junior may have contested Frederick’s will.  Why?  It seems to be demonstrated that Frederick (and Louisa?) felt closer to the James Halpin family than his own.  Is it now possible that the George Halpin listed in regard to the leasing of the Bridge Hotel in 1859 was indeed George junior rather than Fanny’s brother Dr George?  As I earlier stated, I was sure George senior would have helped James’ widow Ann out of any threat of bankruptcy, not knowing then as we now do,  that he was her brother-in-law.
2)   I’d like to know more about Thomas Crostwait, follow him in directories, etc.  Despite the spelling, he may be a pointer yet to the Nicholas Halpin family.
3)   Why is another party to this the Rev Robert Crawford Halpin?  In 1855, his father William and two of his elder brothers were still living (although possibly not in Ireland).  But even so, is this yet another pointer to the William Halpin family being part of the one related family?  I believe so.
4)   So many more thoughts.  I want to know who was the Richard Halpin who signed George out of Kilmainham Hospital in 1800.  William Halpin’s eldest son born 1799 was named Richard, and James had a son Richard, albeit their 5th son.  But curiously there is no Richard in the George families.

Frederick is very much a late child for George senior and his wife Elizabeth (surname still unknown).  If 36 when he died in February 1859, he was born about 1823.  His known siblings were:
George      c. 1804 (died 1869)
Oswald       Jan. 1809 (died 1834 in India)
Louisa      c. 1810 (died 1831, probably in Wicklow)   

Finally for now, it is at last gratifying to some in my family to be able to confirm the handed-down story that we are related to the famous Captain Robert Halpin.  And it is somewhat poignant to imagine that when these sea captains relied for their safety at sea in Ireland, they were guided into port by lighthouses designed and built by George Halpin, ports whose construction and upkeep were also under his supervision.

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #145 on: Wednesday 15 December 10 00:06 GMT (UK) »
If James Halfpenny baptised in 1780 and Margaret Halfpenny baptised in 1782 to John and Elizabeth Halfpenny were brother and sister to George and William, both of whom declared that they were born in Wicklow (which now seems very plausible), where were they baptised?  And we don't have the marriage of John and Elizabeth.  Could Elizabeth have come from a nearby parish in County Wicklow where she and John were married, and where perhaps their other two (or more) children were baptised at that place?
And, if James was born in 1780, that makes George his elder.  If George, William and any others were older than James and Margaret (remember that their mother Elizabeth was about 41 years old in 1780), perhaps these others were all baptised (and born?) away from Wicklow Town.
And so, were the Halpins/Halfpennys continuously in Wicklow Town and, if not, who had the hotel from the 1740s?

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #146 on: Wednesday 15 December 10 09:40 GMT (UK) »
So that means I have Halpin relatives I never knew about.  Thay is great, I always wanted more!!

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #147 on: Thursday 16 December 10 20:38 GMT (UK) »
Responding to some of Bill’s observations:

Referring back to posting  #73 in October by Bill:
Halpin V. Halpin.
In this case there was an examination of witnesses to prove the due execution of a will made by the late Mr. Frederick Halpin, hotel keeper, of the town of Wicklow, leaving his property in equal shares to his two nieces. The will was impeached by the next of kin on the grounds that it was not executed according to the statute....

The Will was “impeached by the next of Kin”. We now know that George Jnr was the next of kin of Frederick (“his said son George and his son Frederick being his only children then living”).
Why he challenged we may never find out.
We still have to square the circle of “two nieces” instead of  “two cousins”. (I know newspapers make mistakes).

I’m happy it was Dr. George Halpin of Wicklow  and not George of Dublin that was involved in the sale of the Bridge Hotel.
This is what the advert said:
  "For full particulars, apply to W.F.Littledale, Esq., 9 Upper Ormonde-Quay, Dublin;
 George Halpin, Esq., Wicklow or Mr. Henry Mac Phail, Auctioneer & Valuator, Wicklow."

I know the info from the gravestone we have regarding George’s  Louisa's  death gives March 18th 1831 but I have a burial record as follows: 1834 Louisa Halpin Wicklow March 19th aged 20 years. This would leave her birth around 1814.

Also a burial record of Frederick Halpin Wicklow 1st March 1859 aged 36 years with the ceremony performed by Henry Rooke(Local) assisted by Rev. Robert Halpin. So it’s beginning to look like the Rev. Is closely related.

Regarding the Halpins being in Wicklow pre 1800 I wonder why James and George's father is not mentioned on the gravestones - only their mother?

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #148 on: Friday 17 December 10 08:11 GMT (UK) »
Annother story from when I was a child, there was a Louisa Halpin who died young from Peritonitas(is that how it spelt!)
she was determined to go that evening to a dance and ignored her Doctor father when he was concerned about stomach pains and told her not to go.  It turned out to be her appendix.  I think that must be the same Louisa who was recorded at having died at 20.

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #149 on: Tuesday 28 December 10 05:49 GMT (UK) »
Index of Irish Death Notices   [http://www.irelandoldnews.com/obits/obidxh.htm]

HALPIN, ? "wife of Captain Thomas" ( ); ; Enniskerry WIC IRL; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1864-10-10;
(Wife of Capt Thomas James Halpin who died Monastery House Enniskerry 2/6/1878, married 18/4/1854 Powerscourt)

HALPIN, Ann "relict of Pat" (BENNET); 54; KER IRL>New Orleans LA; Daily Picayune; 1890-11-9;
HALPIN, Edward Evelyn; 0; Cork City COR IRL; Cork Examiner; 1855-2-7;
HALPIN, Edward Thomas; 8; Dublin DUB IRL; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1863-9-3;
HALPIN, Eliza ( ); ; Gowran Kingstown DUB IRL; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1881-2-5;

HALPIN, Eston C; ; Wicklow Town WIC IRL; Irish-American (NYC NY); 1857-8-15;
(Eaton Cotter Halpin d. 19/7/1857.  Why reported in New York?)

HALPIN, James; 68; Dublin DUB IRL>New York NY; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1864-7-30;
(Born c.1796 ??)

HALPIN, John; ; Liverpool ENG>at sea; Belfast Weekly News; 1893-11-4;
HALPIN, Joseph "Joe"; ; Cobh COR IRL; Irish Examiner; 2000-2-23;
HALPIN, Luke; ; Drumcorath MEA IRL>New York City NYC NY; Irish-American; 1885-2-7;
HALPIN, Mary (DAY); ; Limerick LIM IRL; Evening Echo (COR IRL); 2002-8-2;
HALPIN, P J; ; Kilmallock LIM IRL; Irish Examiner (COR IRL); 2003-9-12;
HALPIN, Pat; 60; Knockalough Kilmihill CLA IRL; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1913-2-11;
HALPIN, Patrick; ; Cahir Cloughmore CLA IRL; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1864-8-17;

HALPIN, Richard; ; Howth DUB IRL; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1855-5-9;
(Harbourmaster at Howth – of great interest.)

HALPIN, Sophy Miss; ; London LND ENG; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1862-11-7;
Sophia Halpin 6th child of William Halpin died unm 33 Leinster Sq London 31/10/1862 aged abt 51

HALPIN, Thomas Rev; ; Dublin DUB IRL; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1878-7-22;
(?)

HALPIN, William; ; Bayswater LND ENG; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1862-12-31;
(Almost certainly a brother of James and George.  Father of the Rev Robert Crawford Halpin)

HALPIN, William; 60; London LND ENG; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1865-4-28;
(Second son of the above, died age 63 at the home of his youngest brother, Rev RC Halpin in London, 54 Belsize Rd, or Sq, Hampstead.  Late Colonel of the Madras Native Infantry)

HALPIN, William Noel; 42; Limerick IRL>S Windsor CT; Hartford Courant; 1999-8-7.


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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #150 on: Tuesday 28 December 10 05:54 GMT (UK) »
Which Captain Halpin is this?

Old Regular Line of Packets
From Dublin
For
NEW-YORK
Sailing on their appointed days
The First-class, Fast-sailing, Copper-fastened
American Packet Ship,
"W A V E,"
(Captain Halpin,)
Will Sail direct from Dublin without calling at
Liverpool or any other Port,
On the 5th of APRIL, 1850.

THIS beautiful Packet Ship, is now open to the inspection of persons intending to emigrate. She is fitted up in the most approved style, and ventilated thouroughly, with lofty between decks and commodious berths, she only requires a visit to command a preference. The Second Cabin accommodations are suited to meet the wishes of respectable families, and private State Rooms will be fitted up for any stated number at a very moderate expense. She is commanded by Captain Halpin, a well-known experienced seaman.

Each Passenger will be supplied with ten and a half pounds of bread-stuffs, 2oz Tea, and 1 lb of Sugar weekly, with a supply of Fuel, Water, and Medicines during the voyage, free of expense.

Those Packets afford all the advantages of direct embarkation, particularly to respectable parties who have much extra Luggage, any quantity of which will be taken WITHOUT ANY CHARGE, besides avoiding the wear and tear, expense, &c. of transhipment.

Parties in the country can secure their berths by remitting £1, and the remainder need not be paid till their arrival at the Ship. For all further information, apply to
JAMES MILEY, 22, Eden-Quay, Dublin

[Anglo-Celt - Published in Cavan, county Cavan March 29 1850
http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Cavan/1850/MAR.html]

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #151 on: Tuesday 28 December 10 05:59 GMT (UK) »
MARRIAGES. - January 18, at Grace Church, Brooklyn-heights, New York, by the Rev. Dr. Vinton, Isaiah DECK, Esq., of Sullivan County, State of New York, to Louisa, youngest daughter of the late Rev. N. J. HALPIN, of Seville-place, Dublin.

Here again is a reference to the Rev NJH as a tenant of George Halpin

[Anglo-Celt - Published in Cavan, county Cavan February 10, 1853
http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Cavan/1853/FEB.html]

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #152 on: Wednesday 29 December 10 00:14 GMT (UK) »
Re: Bill’s question: “I want to know who was the Richard Halpin who signed George out of Kilmainham Hospital in 1800”.

•   From what we already know George was about twenty at this time. The most likely person to sign him out would be his father or an uncle?
•   Brought up as a builder, George Halpin was appointed Inspector of Works to the Ballast Board in 1800. How would you achieve this at such a young age and so little qualifications?
•   Would it help if this was his father or uncle?: Richard Halpin of North Strand, Dublin, Bricklayer, was admitted a Freeman of the City of Dublin as a member of the Guild of Bricklayers by Grace Especial at Easter 1800.
•   George was also admitted a freeman of the City of Dublin by Grace Especial at Midsummer 1804 as a member of the Guild of Masons.
•   Richard Halpin represented the Guild of Bricklayers on the Common Council of Dublin in 1811 and again in 1814.

NOTE: Admission by Grace Especial also known as Special Grace was equivalent to the modern Honorary Freedom, and was reserved for dignitaries and for craftsmen who were not in a trade guild.
For a biography of all three Halpins see the following:

http://www.dia.ie/architects/view/3703

Regards,
Tavern