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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #117 on: Tuesday 23 November 10 21:07 GMT (UK) »
Tavern, I don't suppose William or George (or any other) Halfpennys might also be in these Wicklow Town Church of Ireland records pre 1800, birth, death or marriage?  We have to consider your above findings quite seriously.  In doing so, I have seen written that the name Halpin evolved from Halfpenny (and some other roots), but I would have thought this happened earlier than the late 1700s, particularly in educated families.

But, in doing so, we are looking at James's father's name being John Halpin or John Halfpenny.  His death/burial?  Dare I suggest it, are you prepared now to look for Halfpenny in the registry of deeds, and John Halpin?

Way back early in these rounds of discussions a couple of years ago now, I noted the suggestion from somewhere that a John was somehow connected with Nicholas Halpin in Portarlington.  At the time I wondered if this John was an unknown son.  But was he ("health warning!") a brother (and/or father) of Nicholas?   Nicholas had only one known son, William Henry.  But thereafter, the eldest sons were repeatedly Nicholas John, followed by William Henry.  Bears keeping in mind, I believe.  William Henry was born about 1760 so it is I suppose conceivable that John Halfpenny was also born about then or a bit earlier.

William's 3rd son was John (after Richard and William).  George only had 2 sons (George and Oswald) so we will never know if he may have named a next son John.

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #118 on: Tuesday 23 November 10 21:46 GMT (UK) »
SOME OTHER HALFPENNY NAMES NOTED

WILLIAM son of THOMAS Halfpenny baptised 17th April 1741

JOHN son of WILLIAM Halfpenny baptised 24th May 1741

ISAAC son of WILLIAM and ELIZABETH Halfpenny 1755?

MARGARET daughter of THOMAS and MARGARET Halpenny 1756?

JOHN son of WILLIAM and ELIZABETH Halfpenny 10 June 1759

CHARLES son of THOMAS and SUSANNA Halfpenny 5 August 1764

SUSANNA daughter of THOMAS and SUSANNA Halfpenny 1765?

NICHOLAS of WILLIAM and MARGARET Halfpenny 30 June 1792

MARGARET of WILLIAM and MARGARET Halfpenny 9th Oct 1795

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #119 on: Sunday 28 November 10 17:34 GMT (UK) »
James Halpin (1777–1847) Married 1st April 1814 to Anne Halbert (1797- 1849)
"James & Anne married in the Parish Church, The Church of the Vineyard on 1st April 1814.
James was almost 40 yrs old [bc 1774] while Anne was only 17 yrs. [bc 1797]."
Rees, Jim, The live of Captain Robert Halpin (2009) Arklow, Co Wicklow p13. ISBN 0 9519239 0 0.

Here are some baptismal dates taken from the register of The Church of the Vines,
now Called St. Thomas’s Church of Ireland Church, Church Hill, Wicklow Town

Children:        Born   Baptised      Died
1. Eliza          b 21 Oct 1816     1881
2. Eaton Cotter       19 Sept 1817    19 Jul 1857 age 39 yrs
3. George       1821      1887   
4. Thomas James       30 Sep 1822       1878
5. William Stopford b15 Jan 1824 bp 31 Jan 1824   27 Feb 1885 age 61 yrs
6. Richard Mathews      6 April 1825   1889
7. Sydney Anne      6 Dec 1826   1827
8 Ann Francis (sic)      24 Mar 1828   1902
9. John James       8 Sep 1829   1930
10. Robert Chalmer (sic)   1 Jan 1831   8 Dec 1835
11. John Augustus      26 Oct 1832   8 Oct 1864 age 32 in West Indies
12. Louise         12 Sep 1834   1902
13. Robert  b 5 Jan 1836   16 Feb 1836   23 Jan 1894
(Robert was baptised as Charles Robert) 

Just to add another name to your list. On census 1911 b6 Ballynerrin (part of) Wicklow Urban) All Church of Ireland, born Co Wicklow, could read & write

1 Newsome George age 57 [bc 1854] C of I Veterinary Surgeon & Farmer
2 Newsome Catherine Anne age 49 [bc 1862] wife married 28 yrs. No of children born and living was ‘blank’
3 Halpin, Aileen Grace Gilbert, age 23 yrs [bc1888] Niece single

Aileen Grace Gilbert Halpin was the eldist child of  Richard Frederick B Halpin 1858-1903 and Frances Elizabeth Gilbert who died 1896. 

Who are the Newsomes?
C 1911 b 18 Ferrybank Street, (Arklow Urban, Wicklow) Richard Halpin age 42 yrs was boarding with Anne Tryell and her 2 daughters. He was born in Co Wicklow,  his occupation is Physician & Surgeon, and he was a Widower.
Census 1911 b 14 in Summerhill, (part of) (Wicklow Urban, Wicklow) who are these 2 ladies?
Halpin   Ellen M, age 67 Head of Family   C of I born Wicklow Town, House Keeper, Single         
Halpin   Emma age 56, Sister   , C of I, born Wicklow Town. Occ Accountant, Single         
Cannot find the above 2 sisters on c 1901 searched ‘Wicklow’ and ‘all counties’.

Are the following, part of your family?  Census 1901 b37 in Main Street (Rathdrum, Co Wicklow)
Halpin   Robert James, age 28, Head, C of I, born Co. Louth, National Teacher, single
Turnbull   Margaret age 40, Aunt, C of I. born Co. Wicklow. House-keeper, single
Halpin   Annie Christina, age 18, Sister, C of I born    Co. Louth   Work-Mistress, single


C 1911 b17 Main St. (Rathdrum, Co Wicklow) All 5 C of I. Wife and children born Co Wicklow
1 Robert James Halpin age 38 yrs born Co Louth, National Teacher
2 Alice Halpin, wife age 35 yrs occ = National Teacher married 9 yrs, 5 children born 4 alive.
3 Samuel James age 6 son. 4 Robert George age 3 son. 5 Henry Grattan Halpin 4 mths. Son.

Who was William Halpin boarding at b1 Bond St Wicklow on census 1901 age 70 yrs Irish Church, born Co Wicklow? Occupation = Annuity, single

C 1911 b6 Bath St Wicklow Town
Turnbull   Mark, age    41, Head    R.C. born Co Mayo, Constable of R. I. Constabulary   Married      
Turnbull   Mary Frances, age 33, Wife, R.C. born Co Wexford, mar 7 yrs 2 child born 2 alive      
Turnbull   Thomas Francis, age    6, Son, R.C. born Co Wicklow      
Turnbull   Mary Christina   3, Daughter, R.C. Co Wicklow, Single         
Hennerty   Mary, age 34, Visitor   R.C. born, Cork City,   Poultry Instructress, Single         
Brayden Margaret M P age 26, Boarder, R.C.England, Domestic Economy Instructress, single   

Reply to posting 110 “Among those who sent flowers – Mrs. And Misses Halpin, Dalkey” The following census brings in another name as a grand niece born Egypt.
C 1901 45 in Coliemore Road (Dalkey, Dublin)
   
Halpin   Nannie C   33   Daughter   Protestant   Co Wicklow, Spinster
Halpin   Violet L   26   Daughter   Protestant   Co Wicklow, Spinster
Halpin   Nessie   10   Grand Daughter, Protestant, Co Wicklow, Spinster
Halpin   Alieen   13   Grand Daughter, Protestant, Co Wicklow, Spinster
Pertnice   Violet   6   Grand Niece, Protestant, born Egypt, Spinster
Halpin   Gerbert   12   Grand Son   , Protestant, Co Wicklow, single
Halpin   Susanna F   41   Head    Protestant, Co Wicklow. House Property, Widow
Brown   Daisy   15   Boarder   Protestant   , Co Kilkenny, Scholar. Spinster
Horan   Sarah   17   Servant   R. C Co Wexford, Gen.  Servant   , Spinster

Hope the above is not too long winded. Tavern you seem to be doing a lot of good work for this forum, well done.

Julia
Doyle, Malone, Ryan, Wicklow.
Murray of Arklow.
(O)Carroll of Annamoe, & Cornagower, Brittas, Wicklow, & Co Carlow.
Waters, Haughton, Leviston, Goggin. Kavanagh Wicklow.
Lavender and Newman of Ballyhad, Rathdrum.

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #120 on: Sunday 28 November 10 20:34 GMT (UK) »
Replying to just a couple of Julia's queries/postings.
Ellen and Emma Halpin were daughters of Robert Wellington Halpin.  On page 1 of the original Halpins of Wicklow thread, Ray portrayed how Emma and another sister, at advanced ages and in dire poverty, went to the home of their nephew in Dublin after WW1.
Robert James Halpin I have reported recently was also from the Robert Wellington Halpin family, a nephew of these women, son of their brother Samuel Halpin, mother Madeline, whose father was James Turnbull.  I don't know if she was related to the other Turnbulls listed here, who are recorded as RC.  Madeline was married in Wicklow's Church of Ireland and gives C of I as her religion in the census.
The "Gerbert" Halpin aged 12 in 1901 was Richard Stopford Gilbert Halpin whose son, by a late second marriage, may be the sole remaining male Halpin of this Wicklow Halpin family, unless he has a son.


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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #121 on: Monday 29 November 10 08:48 GMT (UK) »
Aileen and Bessie Halpin were brought up by relatives after their Mother died, I think one went to Aunt Vi, but the other one lived at Seaview House on Church Hill, I think with the Newsomes Maeve mentioned, I was always under the impression they were her Aunt and Uncle.  I don't know where their brother Gilbert went, maybe to England with their father?

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #122 on: Monday 29 November 10 10:20 GMT (UK) »
Of the household at Dalkey in 1901, the head, Susanna F, would have been 71 rather than 41.  She was born in 1829 as Susanna Frances Bestall to William Bestall.  Hence her eldest son's name Richard Frederick Bestall Halpin born 1858, who married Bessie Gilbert.  His only son, noted above as Richard Stopford Gilbert Halpin, brother of Aileen and Bessie (not Nessie), in turn named his only son Richard Michael Bestall Halpin, the remaining Wicklow Halpin of the male line, until recently living in the Scots Borders.
Marie, Gilbert's father Dr RFB Halpin died 2 years after this 1901 census as recorded early on in a picture of his gravestone in Mount Jerome Cemetery, when Gilbert would have been about 14, so he too needed to be cared for by relatives, possibly aunt Nannie Caldour Halpin.

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #123 on: Monday 29 November 10 14:56 GMT (UK) »
So that is what could have happened to Gilbert, I remember once meeting him.. He was completly bald, Shock at seeing his friend killed on the railway line at Killiney and then shortly after having nearly been killed himself when the edge of a cliff gave way, that caused a hair loss, or so the family story went.

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #124 on: Monday 29 November 10 23:25 GMT (UK) »
More on RICHARD STOPFORD GILBERT HALPIN

Born to RICHARD FREDERICK  BESTALL HALPIN and FRANCES ELIZABETH  GILBERT abt 1889, Co.Wicklow.

In Census 1901 GILBERT is with his grandmother at Coliemore Road, Dalkey, Aged 12. Along with his two sisters AILEEN GRACE GILBERT HALPIN (Aileen) and FRANCES ELIZABETH GILBERT HALPIN (Bessie).

R.F.B. HALPIN (Gilbert’s father) died in 1903 and his estate was left to his mother:
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1903 Dublin ... estate granted to Susanna Frances Halpin [mother] of Stokerville, Dalkey, Co. Dublin (widow), lawful guardian of Aileen Grace Gilbert Halpin 16 yrs, Stopford Richard Gilbert Halpin 15 yrs, Frances Elisabeth Gilbert Halpin 13 yrs.

GILBERT qualified and registered as a MD.  27 June 1913 at the age of  24 in Dublin.
   (See the UK Medical Registers, 1859-1959
Halpin,  Richard Stopford Gilbert, 22 Stafford Road, Wallington, Surrey . Date and place of  Registration, Ireland 1913 June 27.  Qualifications: M.B., B.Ch., 1913, U. Dubl).
He is resident in LONDON in 1924 at the age of  35.
( British Phone Books, 1880-1984 Record for R.S.G Halpin Physician and Surgeon, Stafford Road, Wallington, Surrey 1924).

He was still resident in 1959 aged 70 in Wallington, Surrey.
(See the UK Medical Registers, 1859-1959).

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Tavern


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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #125 on: Tuesday 30 November 10 00:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mkent,

AILEEN GRACE GILBERT HALPIN (Aileen) was staying with her aunt Catherine Anne Newsom (Halpin) in the 1911 census in Wicklow.
Catherine Anne was the daughter of Stopford William Halpin and Susanna Frances Bestall and sister to Aileen's father Richard Frederick Bestall Halpin.

FRANCES ELIZABETH GILBERT HALPIN (Bessie) was staying with her aunts at house #3 in Adelaide Terrace (Kingstown No. 4, Dublin)   Nannie Caldon Halpin and Violet Louise Halpin,  daughters of Stopford William Halpin and Susanna Frances Bestall .


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