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Re: Thomas James Halpin
« Reply #108 on: Monday 15 November 10 05:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bill,
Just a reminder for the record. In Post #40 above I gave the names of the ten children mentioned in James' Will as follows:

 Eliza (Elizabeth) (b: 1816), Eaton Cotter (b: 1817), George Halbert (b: 1821), Thomas James (b: 1822), William Stopford (b:1824), Richard Mathews (b: 1825), Anne Frances (Fanny), (b: 1828), John Augustus (b: 1832), Louisa (b: 1834) and Charles Robert (b;1836).

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #109 on: Tuesday 16 November 10 05:56 GMT (UK) »
To clarify the thirteen children of James and Anne Halpin we have the ten mentioned above at the time of the Will and           
 the other three were as follows:

1.   Sidney Anne (b: 1826) died in infancy, Burial 22 May 1827.

2.   John James (b:1829) also died young in 1830.Burial 27th February 1830, aged 5 months. The John mentioned in the Will was John Augustus ( b: 1832). As you are probably aware it was not unusual to call a child after a dead sibling.

3.   Again, there was a Robert Chaloner (b:1831) who died in 1835, aged 5 years and the Robert mentioned in the Will was registered as Charles Robert (b:1836). This is the Capt. Robert Charles of ‘Great Eastern’ fame.

I think we have a new name appearing for the first time? ie. Chaloner.?
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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #110 on: Wednesday 17 November 10 23:51 GMT (UK) »
                                                     Burial of Capt. Robert G.Halpin, who died at Falmouth, 1st June 1906

From the Wicklow Newsletter and Arklow Reporter (June 9th 1906) .

The remains of Captain Robert G. Halpin, who died at Falmouth, on the 1st instant, which reached Wicklow late on Saturday night, were interred in Wicklow Churchyard on Monday (4th). The funeral was very largely attended by all classes of the inhabitants of the deceased native town.........The chief mourners were Doctor James H.Halpin, brother and Mr.Robert Kent, brother- in- law.......

. At half past eleven o clock the coffin, containing all that was mortal of that promising young Wicklowman, was removed from his residence in Wentworth place.....
Amongst those present (many professional and business leaders are mentioned) were some names of interest in this research – John Clements, Dr.Gregg, T.C. Edward Kennedy, T.C. Percy Clements, Henry Revell, M.S.Kent.


Among those who sent flowers – Mrs. And Misses Halpin, Dalkey; Mrs.Halpin, Tinakilly; Misses Halpin, Leitrim Lodge; Nephews and nieces, Wentworth Lodge; Doctor Robert C.H.Kennedy and Mrs. Kennedy, Ryde, Isle of Wight........

A  resolution of sympathy was passed by the Wicklow Harbour Board deploring the loss of 'such a promising fellow townsman'. Also a resolution from  Wicklow Urban Council....that we tender our sympathy to Dr.Halpin, Miss Halpin and Mrs.R.Kent, over their great bereavement in the loss of their brother Captain Robert G. Halpin.......

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #111 on: Thursday 18 November 10 09:17 GMT (UK) »
That was my Grandmother's brother, Uncle Bob, I'm not sure what happened to him, but I do know that a nephew of Captain Halpin's died from blood poisoning, he was repairing the cable and got a scratch from it, at least that is the family story.  For some reason it was my Grandmother and her twin sister Ida who had to go to Falmouth to identify him.
Another Hapin seaman fell overboard and the body was never recovered, again the story was that a shark had got him.   I know I keep saying this, but I wish I had taken more notice of family talk when I was a child!!


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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #112 on: Saturday 20 November 10 09:37 GMT (UK) »
This unusual name 'Robert Chaloner Halpin'  raises the question - Did James and Anne Halpin name some of their children after well known landed gentry, military  and/or Tory politicians, living close by rather than the usual family method?  While unusual this was not unheard of.

1.   Robert Chaloner Halpin:
William-Wentworth Fitzwilliam Hume & the Chaloners
In June 1829, Fitzwilliam Hume, of Humewood, in the county of Wicklow, married Margaret -Bruce Chaloner. She was the eldest daughter of Earl Fitzwilliam's agent  Robert Chaloner, MP, a member of the wealthy aluminium mining family from Guisborough in Yorkshire. Financial disaster had hit Robert around the time of the 1825 banking crisis (sound familiar?).
 Robert was forced to leave his estates and worked as agent for Fitzwilliam in Wicklow. Robert become heavily involved in the controversial exodus of many of  the Fitzwilliam tenants,  to Canada and from there to the USA, towards the end of the Famine. At that time Fitzwilliam owned half the town of Wicklow as well as much of the county. As you are aware the landlord of some of the Halpins properties, in Wicklow, was Fitzwilliam.
Could this be where the “Robert Chaloner” Halpin name came from.? (1831).

2.   William Stopford Halpin
James George Stopford, 3rd Earl of Courtown (30 minutes from Wicklow Town) held the office of Member of Parliament (M.P.) (Tory) for Great Bedwyn between 1790 and 1796. He gained the rank of Captain circa 1791. He succeeded to the title of 3rd Earl of Courtown, co. Wexford on 30 March 1810. He held the office of Governor of County Wexford between 1813 and 1831. He was invested as a Knight, Order of St. Patrick on 20 August 1821. He held the office of Captain of the Yeoman of the Guard between January 1835 and April 1835.
Thomas Stopford the 4th earl had a son Lt Gen Hon Sir Frederick William Stopford,  Page of Honour to Queen Victoria 1866-70.

3.   Eaton Cotter Halpin
Eaton Cotter and Richard Cotter of Coolawinna were land owners and friends of the Halberts.

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #113 on: Monday 22 November 10 02:32 GMT (UK) »
The eldest son of Dr George Halbert Halpin was Dr James Henry Halpin who practised in Wicklow until his death aged about 55, in 1916.  He lived at Wentworth Villas in Wentworth Place.  He is buried with his brother, Captain Robert George Halpin (above).  His wife was Adelaide Maude, who went to Philadelphia after her husband's death with their children.  I hope I am attaching photos of this couple.

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #114 on: Tuesday 23 November 10 13:26 GMT (UK) »
                                                                Link of Rev.Robert Halpin to James Halpin of The Bridge Tavern ?

On the Churchyard memorial we see James’ sister as Margaret.

‘Margaret Halpin daughter of the above named | Elizabeth Halpin died April 15th 1862’.

A burial record #463 Margaret Halpin, Wicklow buried 17th April 1862 aged 80 years. Ceremony performed by Henry Rooke and Rev.Robert Halpin.

Henry Rooke was the local clergyman.

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #115 on: Tuesday 23 November 10 19:49 GMT (UK) »
                                                                                             HALPIN V. HALFPENNY

                                                  Just another "conspiracy Theory".....The following carries a "HEALTH WARNING"...

No Halpins are showing pre 1799 in Wicklow town Church of Ireland records.
The Halpins may have come from another parish in Wicklow or from outside Wicklow.

 Yet according to other facts we have “HALPIN’S BRIDGE HOTEL Established AD 1765” and Frances Halpin’s statement of :  ...It is kept by members of the same family who kept it a century ago...
This may have been in the maternal side of the family or is it possible that the name changed?

In Church records we have a JAMES son of John and Elizabeth HALFPENNY baptised 22nd October 1780.
We have a MARGARET daughter of John and Elizabeth HALFPENNY baptised 28th April 1782
From previous info  (Churchyard memorial) we are looking for a JAMES HALPIN born abt. 1778 whose mother is ELIZABETH. From the burial record above we are looking for a MARGARET HALPIN born abt. 1782 with a mother ELIZABETH.

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
« Reply #116 on: Tuesday 23 November 10 20:31 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Tavern for providing the first documentary evidence of a link between these families.  In 1862 and the years surrounding, Rev Robert Crawford Halpin was chaplain at the Arbour Hill Barracks in Dublin.  The next month after he performed this service in Wicklow, his last known child, Arthur Frederick Halpin, was born at the Royal Barracks, Dublin.  So, I have no doubt that this is him and that he has come down from Dublin to co-conduct this burial service.  Was Margaret his aunt (and therefore James his uncle), or a first cousin once removed?  I can't entertain a more distant relationship.

                                                                Link of Rev.Robert Halpin to James Halpin of The Bridge Tavern ?
A burial record #463 Margaret Halpin, Wicklow buried 17th April 1862 aged 80 years. Ceremony performed by Henry Rooke and Rev.Robert Halpin.
Henry Rooke was the local clergyman.