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Offline janeyanne

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finding a will
« on: Friday 20 August 10 14:26 BST (UK) »
 How would i find out the details of a will probated in the early 1800  in yorkshire .May just save my sanity,  i'm pulling out  my hair. Thanks janey anne
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Re: finding a will
« Reply #1 on: Friday 20 August 10 14:43 BST (UK) »
Hi

Yorkshire is a big county so you need to know which of the three ridings.
Pre 1858 wills were probated in church courts. Generally speaking if someone only owned property/ possessions contained in one dioceses (the jurisdiction of a bishop) the will was proved in a lower church court, but had to go up to a higher court if their wealth was more widespread or if the chose to. Lower church court records are held in local county record offices. The Prerogative Court of York held jurisdiction over the whole of Northern England (Archbishopric). PCY wills are held at the Borthwick Institute at York (their is an index on British Origins which charges to view). The highest court was the Prerogative Court of Canterbury held in London - wills but not administrations are electronically indexed at The National Archives website.

What was the persons name and where did they live?


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Re: finding a will
« Reply #2 on: Friday 20 August 10 14:57 BST (UK) »
Also some parts of North Yorks come under the Diocese of Chester and those Wills are held at Cheshire Record Office  :-\ I don't think I'll ever get the hang of this.
Watson, Snowball, Pyburn, Heppell, Ferry, Holmes, Clennett, Kidd, Pescod, Bage Co.Duham & Northumberland
Stockton, Watson, Bage, Nellist N. Yorks
Challnor/Challoner Cheshire/Shropshire. Moore, Mansell: Wellington, Shropshire
Davies/ David, Coity, Glamorgan
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« Reply #3 on: Friday 20 August 10 16:02 BST (UK) »
Hi

The way I do it is Phillimore Atlas (expensive purchase in its day but I've had years of good service). Each county is shown with all the individual parishes and the colour of each church court and its jurisdiction.

East Riding
Archdeaconry of Cleveland
Archdeaconry of East Riding
Archdeaconry of York
Peculiars (the small individual parishes that were an exception)

North Riding
Archdeaconry of Cleveland
Archdeaconry of the East Riding
Archdeaconry of Richmond
Peculiars 

West Riding
Archdeaconry of Richmond
Archdeaconry of York
Peculiars and a couple of detached parishes which I think is where the Archdeaconry of Chester comes in
 

In the end apart from the small number of individual parishes that are peculiar or detached it seems to boil down to the Archdeaconry courts of Cleveland, East Riding, Richmond or York and the PCY.


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Re: finding a will
« Reply #4 on: Friday 20 August 10 16:10 BST (UK) »
The Phillimore Atlas is on my wish list  :) I know that the Parish of Ainderby Steeple is in the Diocese of Chester so that must be one of the exceptions. Sorry if I've confused things and thank you for that info.
Watson, Snowball, Pyburn, Heppell, Ferry, Holmes, Clennett, Kidd, Pescod, Bage Co.Duham & Northumberland
Stockton, Watson, Bage, Nellist N. Yorks
Challnor/Challoner Cheshire/Shropshire. Moore, Mansell: Wellington, Shropshire
Davies/ David, Coity, Glamorgan
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 20 August 10 16:31 BST (UK) »
Hi

Accordingly to Phillimore's Atlas Ainderby Steeple is 'central - my term' North Riding and in the Archdeaconry of Richmond

According to this website though we don't really need to go down this far in Anglican church subdivisions, the Archdeaconry of Richmond is made up of 24 Deaneries with the parish of Ainderby Steeple and 15 other parishes in the 'Deanery of Richmond East'

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Descriptions/NRY/NRYDescription7.html


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« Reply #6 on: Friday 20 August 10 16:55 BST (UK) »
The origins network is indexing the wills of the Yorkshire peculiars

http://www.originsnetwork.com/NWIWelcome.aspx

so you could looki on there, and if it is there you can order via the website or direct from the Brothwick Institute

(I think you can buy credits for the Origins network if you are not a member)
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 20 August 10 17:01 BST (UK) »
That's interesting, I wonder if I've misunderstood ordination records as according to the CCEd site Ainderby came under Chester  :-\ I wonder if that was during the period I was interested in (1700-43) and it has since changed?
Watson, Snowball, Pyburn, Heppell, Ferry, Holmes, Clennett, Kidd, Pescod, Bage Co.Duham & Northumberland
Stockton, Watson, Bage, Nellist N. Yorks
Challnor/Challoner Cheshire/Shropshire. Moore, Mansell: Wellington, Shropshire
Davies/ David, Coity, Glamorgan
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« Reply #8 on: Friday 20 August 10 17:08 BST (UK) »
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