Oxford Street Rock Pub Manchester

[annafabulous]

I've just put the story together and it all sounds very curious:

Hannah Balls married William Blodwell 1848

She then divorced(?) and married Peter Bostock in 1856

They moved to GC in 1861 with a boarder called Theodore Kummant (22) Hannah (31) Peter (26)

1900 The Beer Scare. Peter 64ish.

Hannah dies aged 67 at GC & buried in Southern Cemetery.

Peter remarries within 6 months, Annie Cummant (31!!! - gold digger!!!)

Peter Bostock dies aged 68 at GC & is buried in June. Edward T Kummant, a restaurant keeper, is buried with him in September.

I wonder if Annie was related to Theodore and Edward, or whether the T in Edward T Kummant's name stands for Theodore, and they are actually the same person!

[Barbara.H]

What an addictive thread...

Marriage 1863, Manchester Cathedral
Eliza BALLS
Theodor CUMMANT

So there are a whole lotta Balls ladies involved here!

[Barbara.H]

Was just going to add before reading your last post Anna, Theodore and Edward can both be shortened to Ted, so I think very possible that they could be the same person.

Anna Cummant might be Theodor and Eliza's daughter, her age fits in with their marriage. It would also explain how Peter and Theodor/Edward (if they are the same) ended up in the same grave - its her father and her husband

  Barbara

[Mr. MIGKY]

Think William Blodwell died March 1/4 1854.
Doesn't give an age for him.
Migky 

[annafabulous]

I've re-edited my story including the updated information, so I think that makes more sense now. The too-close-for-comfort linked relationships aren't hugely dissimilar from the way things seem to work in the present day! Maybe a new theme that has survived the ages along with bad beer   

Hannah Balls married William Blodwell 1848

William Blodwell died 1854.

Hannah married Peter Bostock in 1856

They moved to GC in 1861 with a boarder called Theodore/Edward Cummant (22) Hannah (31) Peter (26)

Eliza Balls (Hannah's relative) marries Theodore/Edward Cummant at Manchester cathedral 1863

1900 The Beer Scare. Peter 64ish.

Hannah dies aged 67 at GC & buried in Southern Cemetery.

Peter remarries within 6 months, Annie Cummant ( Eliza and Theodore's daughter? 31)

Peter Bostock dies aged 68 at GC & is buried in June. Theodore/Edward, (a restaurant keeper by this point), is buried with him in September.

[annafabulous]

...I think a trip to Southern Cemetery is on the cards soon also

Was speaking a regular today who has the old sign for The Shady Lady on the wall in his living room! How exciting!

The Shady Lady: Pub Sign
Painted by Clare Highton
Norman Hartley Signs LTD. Manchester.
ABS Moulded Panel

http://yfrog.com/ccpicture001wjj

[granata]

Brilliant thread, thanks especially annafabulous, Barbara and Mr Migky for such enthusiasm and investigation.

Oh and anna, your beer isn't bad... just a tad too cold!  And real ale instead of smoothflow wouldn't go amiss 

Hope you don't mind that I've updated the GC entry on our Pubs of Manchester blog with info from here.

http://pubs-of-manchester.blogspot.com/2010/03/42-grand-central-oxford-rd.html

Cheers

[Mr. MIGKY]

Hello & welcome Granata, I am still think there is a lot more to be found on this establishment yet.
Do you know where we should look for any licensees of this premises from the 1920's on?

By the way i love me Guinness cold but these days it plays havoc with me teeth ( well any cold drink does)

Also a lot of credit to Barbara, she always fills in the bits people tent to miss and normally turn out to be the important bits too.


Migky 

[Mr. MIGKY]

Just remembered, i need to tempt Emms over to this thread she holds a copy of the 1954 Manchester & Salford Directory. So she can fill us in who had the place back then?
I will send her a PM and ask Emms to have a look at this thread.

Migky