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Any Dates please
« on: Sunday 15 August 10 22:41 BST (UK) »
Can any info be gleaned from this photo to give a particular date?

I know the Foxfield Colliery was in existence from the early 1880's until eventually closing after difficult times in 1965.

The gentlemen concerned in the photo I presume to be the rescue team judging by the attire they are wearing

Thanks for looking

Al
Yorkshire Families: Crawford, Pinkney, Reynolds, Knowles. Bailey.
Durham Families : Hann, Everett, Brown. 
Norfolk Families : Tuffs of Wisbeach,  Smiths Of North Creek.
Irish Families : Hann

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Re: Any Dates please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 16 August 10 00:53 BST (UK) »
1900-1910.  Guess based on 6 of the 7 men having fairly bushy moustaches.

Nick
McLellan - Inverness
Greer - Renfrewshire
Manson - Aberdeen & Orkney
Simpson - Hereford, Devon, etc.
Flett - Orkney
Chisholm - Scotland
Wishart - Orkney
Shand - Aberdeen
Pirie - Aberdeen

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« Reply #2 on: Monday 16 August 10 08:31 BST (UK) »
Al,
This pic is Foxfield mine yet on a mines rescue site the same location is described as
 Mossfield  with the same Superintendant and the same background and the same Siebe- Gorman proto Breathing apparatus, ok the BA Sets are or were pretty standard throught the mine industry at this time, So there may be a mistake on either the web site or the legend on your pic. nickgc is probably right with the date timef frame, although the BA sets were still in use post ww1
www.minesrescuehistory   

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« Reply #3 on: Monday 16 August 10 12:39 BST (UK) »
Many thanks to you both for the info.

James, what a find, I am speechless, as you say definitely the same mine re the background and same superintendant, Walter Clifford (Superintendent) standing centre wearing the same medals, certainly different group of rescue brigade, am wondering if they all went from different colliery's to have photo's taken at the same time.

Whilst there are slight changes to the background IE men in the background and wagon movement it's too uncanny.

I have forwarded my image to the website in the hope they will find a place within it as I am sure they would be proud to have their image displayed.

Many many thanks for your input

Al
Yorkshire Families: Crawford, Pinkney, Reynolds, Knowles. Bailey.
Durham Families : Hann, Everett, Brown. 
Norfolk Families : Tuffs of Wisbeach,  Smiths Of North Creek.
Irish Families : Hann


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« Reply #4 on: Monday 16 August 10 13:16 BST (UK) »
You are welcome, please let me know the outcome from the mines rescue site.

James

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« Reply #5 on: Monday 23 August 10 23:04 BST (UK) »
just out of interest what are the medals the guy at the back is wearing?
ENGLAND Mitchell (London), Walker (Pirton, London & Cornwall) Fenton (Shefield) Simmonite & Rhodes (Yorkshire) Kevern (Cornwall)

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 24 August 10 08:47 BST (UK) »
Salmynka,
They may be awards for particular acts of bravery during mine rescues or  they maybe just recognition of particular skills like First Aid or Breathing apparatus trainer etc,, the pic of the medal is so small any recognition from it is not possible, however go to www.heroes-of-mine.co.uk and you will see various awards and medals that were instituted for acts of heroism in mines rescue. ALBERT MEDAL, EDWARD MEDAL, GEORGE MEDAL  and other lesser awards in categories of silver and bronze, though I must admit I would find it unlikely a person of a prestigious award  such as the three mentioned would wear it for work unless it was a special occasion like the photograph.
You can just google coal  mines rescue and  coal mine disasters and lots of info is available.

James

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 24 August 10 09:54 BST (UK) »
Thank you macintosh  :)
ENGLAND Mitchell (London), Walker (Pirton, London & Cornwall) Fenton (Shefield) Simmonite & Rhodes (Yorkshire) Kevern (Cornwall)

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 24 August 10 11:22 BST (UK) »
The www.minesrescuehistory   link macintosh gave earlier has a brief bio of Walter Clifford and talks about at least one of the medals from what I recall.  Use this link instead
https://sites.google.com/site/minesrescuehistory/the-clifford-family/walter-clifford

Nick
McLellan - Inverness
Greer - Renfrewshire
Manson - Aberdeen & Orkney
Simpson - Hereford, Devon, etc.
Flett - Orkney
Chisholm - Scotland
Wishart - Orkney
Shand - Aberdeen
Pirie - Aberdeen

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Theology is never any help; it is searching in a dark cellar at midnight for a black cat that isn't there.   -Robert Heinlein