RAF AMES 504 Dingli Cliff Malta

[bill247]

Hi Gordimil, Have tried twice to send the map to you and it failed as the map is to big and exceeds the limit set for here .
If you look at Google map of Malta and find Dingli Village follow the straight road from the village to the cliffs , There are buildings at the corner of this road and the cliff path .
This is where the RAF barrack blocks to house the Radar personnel were built in 1941 . At the road end as you look at  the map go LEFT along the cliff till you come to 2 paths ( 1 straight 1 curved ) which lead to what looks like a farm , To the RIGHT of this about 1 o clock position you will see a building at an angle , Beside that building to the LEFT of it is where we beliEve my Dad's Radar was sited , That is where on the Air Ministry 1941 map it shows the VHF DF Station (which in the COL Column of the same map it is located ) The station was also a Chain Overseas Low Radar ( COL ) so we believe that is possibly the site . The area is called TAL PITKAL.  The area is mentioned on a contours map and the height above sea level is 800 Ft.
Hope this helps Sir,
                Bill.

[gordimil]

I think I've followed your directions correctly and have tried uploading.

[DeeBoneham]

Near enough for Government work as they say in the RAF  Glad to have been of help...

[bill247]

Hi Gordimil, Thanks again for the post and picture , You are in the right Direction but just to far along.
before i forget i had a reply from Tony and he will try some of his EX RAF Friends and see if he can find any Info for you re the Radio operators group at RAF Siggiewi , Will let you know if i receive anything .
Back to the location of No 504 COL DF AMES RADAR  , I may have made it difficult for you ( SORRY ) so i will try again.
Google map of Malta and zoom into Dingli village  find theroad from the village to the cliff path ( Triq It Turretta ) this leads to the cliff path ( Triq Panoramika ) at the junction of triq It Turretta and Triq Panoramika you can see some buildings on the LEFT corner , This as i said was the RAF Domestic site ( Barrack blocks x3  dinning room & ablutions block )  again come LEFT  along the triq Panoramika as the path turns slight RIGHT  then goes straight for a very short stretch then there is a very slight LEFT Turn in the path ,   At this point on the right  there is 1 path that  leads off the main cliff path into what looks like a square yard , This path looks like it has these bright chucky stones on it .
Oposite the square type yard is a building beside the stone dyke wall , the building is at an angle  beside this building runs what looks like an old dirt track from the cliff path as you can see the wheel tracks which goes past this building .
To the left of this building about a few yards is where My Late Dad's Radar Station No 504 COL AMES
was sited  .  The next main road off the cliff path is marked SAN PAWL / TAL PITKALI . DO NOT GO THIS FAR ALONG THE CLIFF. Hope this helps   Bill

[gordimil]

Hi Bill, had another go. If I've managed to follow your directions this time, the marker pin is the nearest I could get it to where I think you meant.

[bill247]

Hi Gordimil , I am sitting here pulling my hair out ( What i have left ) as you are a hairs breadth away .
Your marker is on the site of the RAF No 203's  COL Receiver site from 1955 and on that site were Type 13 and 14 Radars and a height finder Radar and i have the pictures of them  ,  The transmitter site for this station was further along the cliff on the site of the present Civil Radar nicknamed the Golf Ball . you would see it if you come back past the domestic site and before you get to the Madeliena Church on the cliff.

Right , From your (  A )   Marker come RIGHT an Inch and you will see a path ( looks like a gravel path ) and the words TRIQ PANORAMIKA  are underneath the entrance of this path which leads up to what looks like a yard.
In the field to the RIGHT of this path you can see what looks like vehicle tyre tracks which are beside the Stone Dyke wall , The tyre tracks turn LEFT near the top of the field  beside an ANGLED Building .
To the LEFT SIDE  of that building  in that field stood my Dad's Radar RAF No 504 COL DF  from its arrival in November 1940 till my Dad left for Egypt in May 1943 .
This time Gordimil you definately have the location .
      Bill.

[gordimil]

Sorry Bill, I think it's me. Before I post another wrong view, can you confirm from Google the latitude and longitude of the building in question is around about 35.85, 14.37.

If you right click on the building then select 'what's here' it should come up with the figures.

Part of the problem has been with regard to the level of zoom and size of display. As one zooms in closer so the words Triq Panoramika come up more often along the road.

I think I've got it this time but would like to be sure.

Any idea how I can remove the entries with the wrong locations?

regards
gordon

[bill247]

Gordon  The X marks the spot , I hope it goes to you alright.
   Bill.

[bill247]

Hi Gordon . Hurrah it went to you and the X as i say marks the area that the Air Ministry Map of 22nd February 1941 tells me that it stood .
Just how accurate the Map is i do not know but i am hopeful that it is accurate and you now as well as anyone else that is interested can see the Location of My Late Dad's Radar Unit RAF No 504 Chain Overseas Low Radar Direction Finding Unit which as i have said served on this site from November 1940 till my Dad was transferred to Egypt in May 1943 .

Gordon , if i hear from Toy Regarding the RAF Siggiewi , I will be back in touch.
Thank you very much for your interest in my almost 4 Year Project.
      Warmest Regards.
            Bill.