Street names Thornton Bradford

[johnnyboy]

Hi Jen: Very nice pictures. The leaf on the gravestone of Gilbert Dobson's son seems to be floating above it. Perhaps an unseen someone was there in the cemetery when you were there. Of course not. It was just the lighting.

Timothy Dobson is from the Dobson family that does not appear to be related to me. The stone says that he is from "nigh" Clayton. Clayton is a few miles east and slightly north of Thornton. Maybe that 's where the unrelated Dobsons originated.

I understand now what's going on with your Drivers in Thornton. I've sent you a PM about Batch searching and a link to the page to do it from. I was going to post it here, but the lesson got too long.

If you have questions, send me a PM, though I'll be offline for a while.

Regards,
John 

[danuslave]

Hi northernsearcher

I don't know where you are looking up the census records, but if you can see the original image on a***ry, you can also look at the Enumerator's description of that district

For Charles Driver in 1861

Just above the original image you should see

Yorkshire > Thornton > Thornton > District 3

click on District 3

You then need
County   Yorkshire
Civil Parish Thornton
Sub-registration District  Thornton

and you will get various districts including

District 3     View description of enumeration district

click on  View description of enumeration district

About half way down it says

all the Houses on the South Side of the Main Street in the Village

so it's possible it didn't actually have a name

Linda

[danuslave]

Doing the same for 1871 (except this time it's District 2!) still says the Main Street, but this time there are a few more road names and a few less descriptions like 'Obediah Ackroyd's Iron Monger Shop'.  I'm sure that was very useful in 1871, but a little less so now   

You can of course also Trawl through all the images in District 2.  There are only 29!  It's a good job you're not looking in the middle of London   

Linda

Added - I think the Main Street probably became Market Street

[danuslave]

1871  Fawthrop Hotel at Town Bottom is on 'Main Street'

1881  Fawthrop Hotel at Town Bottom is on Market Street

Can I stop now please   

Linda

[dave the tyke]

I have been following this thread with interest as I have a family of Dobsons in my tree including a Timothy Dobson born circa 1836. They lived in Sapgate Lane Thornton before moving to Horton.

Glad the location of Main Street has been found, little things like that tend to nag at me until they are resolved. Well done Linda.   

Dave

[northernsearcher]

Linda
You are a genius.  Thank you so much.  The excellent thing about Rootschat  people is that you don't just help solve mysteries and discover missing people you actually help people to develop skills. I had looked through many pages of Thornton census data to find Drivers but never to locate places. Brilliant,  I actually walked up and down Market St  (Main St) so I could probably have found numbers 14 and 77. 

I will be going back to Thornton but maybe not before Christmas so I plan to improve my photographs of grave stones, which were disappointing as I cut bits off.  I am more than happy to take improved, I hope, pictures of these and of places in Thornton. If anyone wants any snaps let me know.

Dave
Maybe  the Dobsons on the gravestones are yours as well as John's?  I have a photograph of the end of Sapgate lane which leads into Market St, it is almost directly opposite the Kipping Chapel - now I can shrink pic's here it is.

Thank you again Linda and John for all your help in solving the mystery of the missing street and helping me improve my hunting skills.

Jen

[danuslave]

little things like that tend to nag at me until they are resolved

They nag me too, which is why I can spend hours trying to resolve them!  Perhaps I was a detective in another life - or maybe I'm just plain nosey (that's what my son says)

Glad to have helped   

Linda

[johnnyboy]

Well, like Rip Van Winkle, I seem to have slept through much of the excitement. One of my theories has been that the enumerator in 1861 in Thornton may not have been overly familiar with the town.

Census enumerators in the U.K.censuses were supposedly drawn from among the locals, so my theory may not be valid.

Another possibility is that Market Street and Main Street were used interchangeably by Thorntonians (is that the demonym?).

This is out of Malcolm Bull's territory, I think, but I wonder if he would know anything about it.

As for Dave the Tyke and me being related through the Dobsons: it would be nice to discover a relative, but I've not found a link to Timothy Dobson. In fact, my 3x great grandfather was living next door to another, slightly older, Dobson in 1841, and I haven't been able to link them to each other. I'm thinking they were either cousins or uncle and nephew, but their being brothers is also a possibility. I suppose the only solution is to order film from the LDS and get seasick trolling through it.

Regards,
John 

[dave the tyke]

Sorry Jen for hi-jacking the thread somewhat.
Hi John,
My Dobsons are quite distant but proved quite a challenge in my early research days. There were 2 people who married each other and both had been married before. Sidney Dobson b 1850 married Hannah Wilman 1872 Bradford, she also married John Sharpe 1887 Bradford. He had been married to Mary Pearson 1874 Bradford. All of the above were born Thornton as far as I know. A dau. of John and Mary's - Sarah Alice Sharpe b 1880 married my grandfather's brother in 1909 - she was the 1st of 3 wives  not only that but FreeBMD had got the transcription wrong. Next - Timothy Dobson's son Fred married Sarah's sister Mary 1896 again in Bradford. Nothing is simple in my family trees so you will forgive me if I don't get too enthusiastic over this 
I take it that you are across the pond, glad to be of assistance whenever possible
Dave