Loach, Albert Edward *COMPLETED*

[Noandra]

I am trying to find more about Albert Edward Loach, b 1876 in Birmingham, married to Jessie Eleanor/ Ellinor Smith b 10-10-1878 Wellington NZ. I think Albert's parents were Thomas Edward Loach married to Ellen, I would like to prove this, and is there any record of when Albert came to NZ and were there any other siblings. Can anyone help please.?

[AMBLY]

Hi Noandra

Is this the fellow:

Father -  Mr T E LOACH of Waimata? **
http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/soldier/albert-edward-loach

Cheers
AMBLY

* edit: the database is regarding  Albert Edward Loach on the ship Waiwere in 1900. NoK written as T E LOACH of Waimata  - but I think think this should read "Waimate", which is in Canterbury. (Waimata is in the North Island Waikato area).

[AMBLY]

Hi

Everything I'm  seeing points to the following being the family of Thomas Edward LOACh (who married Jessie E SMITH):

http://www.ozlists.com/genies/defence/ww1/rollhono/l3.htm
Thomas Edward LOACH of Papanui Road, ChCh

That site also losts: Geo. Wallace LOACH reported missing, believed KIA in 1915 - NoK was wife Mrs Emily LOACH of 203 Papanui Road ChCh. George is on the IGI (Submitted) as being born 1889 NSW Australia to Thomas Edward LOACH & Emily Sprigg Jones.

His WW1 death record states:
Son of Thomas E. and Emily Loach, of 53, Rose Warne St., Spreydon, Christchurch

MARRIAGE: Thomas Edward LOACH & Emily Sprigg JONES - married Dec Qtr 1881, Holborn, London/Middlesex
The marriage record states Thomas was 25, Bachelor, Tin plate worker, son of John LOACH, button maker. Emily was a 19 yr old spinster, dau of : John Jones, deceased.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/09g4/
Notice of A.E being wounded May 1915 - father stated as Thomas Edward LOACH.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/09g3/
Regarding the death of George in Sep 1915. Refers to him as the 2nd son of T.E. Loachof Papanui Road and brother of Lt. Co. A.E. Loach.

NZ BMD shows Thomas Edward LOACH death 1926 age 71 - so born abt 1855.
https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Home/

NSW BDM shows 2 other sons born in Australia (siblings of A E)
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/searchHistoricalRecords.htm
Percy E in 1891 and Horace E in 1893 - registered Marickville (as was George Edward)

http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/
Horace Edward LOACH has entries in Archway NZ - he also appears to have served WW1.

But I think, he's not the same Thomas as shown in this 1881 Census - as that family are still in the UK in 1901.
CENSUS 1881: 59 Imkerman St, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
RG11 / Piece: 2802 / Folio: 110 / Page: 10
Head: William HOWL 63, Fitter/ Engine, b Wolverhampton
Wife: Ann HOWL 61, b Willenhall, Staffs
Dau: Elizabeth HOWL 24 unm, no occuparion, b Pelsall, Staffs
Visitor: Thomas LOACH 27, married, Moulder/Iron, b Wolverhampton
Visitor: Ellen LOACH 26, married, b Goscot, Staffs
Visitor; Albert LOACH 3, b Wolverhamton

Cheers
AMBLY

[Janette]

There are 2 entries for Albert Edaward on the Auckland Cenotaph website

the first is the Boer War
http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/Cenotaph/RecordDetail.aspx?OriginalID=127537&Ordinal=2&c_surname_search=loach


the second WW1

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/Cenotaph/RecordDetail.aspx?OriginalID=48516&Ordinal=1&c_surname_search=loach

Cheers Janette

[Janette]

Marriage

1901 Jessie Elinor Smith to  Albert Edward  Loach 

Children for Jessie and Albert

1902  Albert Cyril             Loach to Jessie Ellinor and Albert Edward
1903  Alfred Edward        Loach to Jessie Eleanorand Albert Edward
1905  Jessie Catherine    Loach to Jessie Elinor and Albert Edward
1907  Ellis Clifford            Loach toJessie  Ellinorand Albert Edward
1909  Agnes Elinor            Loach Jessie to Elinor and Albert Edward

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search.aspx?Path=%2FqueryEntry.m%3Ftype%3Dbirths

[Janette]

There is a T E Loach and child on a ship ? Hamoto from Sydney to Wellington 29th Aug. 1891

the transcription says F E Loach but it appears to be a transcription error,the original manifest can be seen here

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#searchType=close&collection=fs%3A1609792&surname=loach&p=recordResults

[Noandra]

Thank you so much for all your help.
This is the family I am tracing -
Marriage
1901 Jessie Elinor Smith to  Albert Edward  Loach 

Children for Jessie and Albert

1902  Albert Cyril             Loach to Jessie Ellinor and Albert Edward
1903  Alfred Edward        Loach to Jessie Eleanorand Albert Edward
1905  Jessie Catherine    Loach to Jessie Elinor and Albert Edward
1907  Ellis Clifford            Loach toJessie  Ellinorand Albert Edward
1909  Agnes Elinor            Loach Jessie to Elinor and Albert Edward 
plus
Phyllis Gwendoline 1910 and Marjoarie 1912

Albert Cyril Loach m Violet Ellen Brassington & their son Corwyn Maxwell Loach is a direct relative.

I think the A E Loach who served in the Boer War service # 389 could be the correct person.

Where is "Waimate" is that close to Christchurch?

"T E Loach and child on a ship ? Hamoto from Sydney to Wellington 29th Aug. 1891" that seems make him Albert Edward's father.

Ambly I am not sure if this is the same Thomas Edward which I am looking for -
MARRIAGE: Thomas Edward LOACH & Emily Sprigg JONES - married Dec Qtr 1881, Holborn, London/Middlesex
The marriage record states Thomas was 25, Bachelor, Tin plate worker, son of John LOACH, button maker. Emily was a 19 yr old spinster, dau of : John Jones, deceased.

but this certainly looks like it could be him -

But I think, he's not the same Thomas as shown in this 1881 Census - as that family are still in the UK in 1901.
CENSUS 1881: 59 Imkerman St, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
RG11 / Piece: 2802 / Folio: 110 / Page: 10
Head: William HOWL 63, Fitter/ Engine, b Wolverhampton
Wife: Ann HOWL 61, b Willenhall, Staffs
Dau: Elizabeth HOWL 24 unm, no occuparion, b Pelsall, Staffs
Visitor: Thomas LOACH 27, married, Moulder/Iron, b Wolverhampton
Visitor: Ellen LOACH 26, married, b Goscot, Staffs
Visitor; Albert LOACH 3, b Wolverhamton


I wonder if we can find more on Thomas's parents or Ellen's maiden name.

[Janette]

On the CWGC website it lists George Wallace Loach's parents as Thomas E. and Emily Loach, of 53, Rose Warne St., Spreydon, Christchurch.

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=680124

[Lucy2]

oops - posted in error ... deleted   

Edit:

FREE BMD UK

Marriages - Dec - 1876

LOACH - Thomas
HOWL - Ellen

Reg'd. Wolverhampton