Fogarty and Parkinson Families

[CGore]

Hello All

I would be interested to hear from anyone connected to
Phillip Fogarty b. 1851 in County Tipperary.
Jane Parkinson b. 1857 in County Tipperary

Phillip was a farm labourer and Jane was a farmer's daughter. They ran off to Liverpool, of all places, married and went on to have 14 children.

Any information would be great.

Many thanks for tour interest.

Cath.

[Ticker]

Hi Cath

Sorry we haven't been able to help you so far on this one. 

Have you made any progress,  or do you have any further details that could help someone to find what you are looking for?

Look forward to hearing from you.

Best wishes 

Ticker

[cicek]

dear cath

eureka! you have found the great granddaughter of philip fogarty and Jane parkinson.  Yes the couple came to Liverpool from Tipperary and lived in Dublin Street.  Philip worked on the docks and apparently rescued a chap who had fallen in the Mersey unfortunately he died of pneumonia leaving Jane a young widow.  I have started our family tree and have quite a bit of information about them.  Jane had a brother John who was an alderman.  Did you know they were married when she was 12 years old I found their marriage certificate in the Picton library.  You will find them on the 1901 census.  They had a daughter Maggie who died in 1977 she was my grandmother.  We are quite a big family and there are still some grandchildren of Philip and Jane still alive.  I am so excited to find your message on roots - but who are you?
My name is also Kath and lots of the family still live on Merseyside.  One day I am going to Tipperary to try to find the farm - my uncle Bob went back but unfortunately he died a few years ago so I can't get much information except it was thurles, clonmell.
Hope you get this message and can reply to me with some info.
Kathy

[CGore]

Hi Kath

I hope you get this as it's been a while since you posted your reply. Fantastic to make contact. I've always known Philip and Jane came from Tipperary but never knew where?
Yes I did know that Jane was 13 and Philip 15 when they married I have copies of their marriage and death certificates. They lied about their ages because although it was legal for them to marry at that age (the age of consent was 12 for a girl and 15 for a boy until 1929) they would have to have permission from their perants. Which they didn't have.
Did you know they had 14 children although, not all survived?
Philip and Jane had a son called Patrick Joseph Fogarty b.1878 (he died in the first World War) I am his son Robert's granddaughter. Patrick married Jessie Hughes (she later remarried William Furlong).

I hope to hear from you soon.

Cath.

[joeka]

Hi Cath
It's me again Kathy.  I have just found your message you left me four years ago so I hope this return message reaches you.  I could not recall the web page we were using and I have searched for you many times I have even ploughed through our local telephone book but to no avail.  I have recently had an op to my shoulder so I am using the time off work to do a bit more family research and finally I have tracked you down.  I was thrilled to hear from you again and so interested to discover who you are.  I did know that Patrick was killed in the first world war I have been trying to find his war records.  His brother Francis was also killed I have a feeling they went off to war together and my sister Brenda seems to think that Francis lied about his age to be with his brother Patrick.  We knew Patrick had married for when we were children we used to play with Francis's medal - it was a huge thing and apparently every family received one with the deceased name engraved on it.  Our grandmother had it for many years but I don't know who has it now.  My grandmother told us that there was another medal but it went to Patricks wife.  I was so happy to hear he had a family that carried on the family name.
I seem to recall you mentioning somewhere on the Internet that you lived in Ormskirk.  My sister lives in Maghull and Philip and Jane's grandson John lives in Maghull also and their granddaughter Kitty (Katherine) lives in Lydiate so not far from you - could be neighbours!!!!!!!!!  We live on the Wirral now but did live in Appley Bridge for several years.  We have two grown up children, two grandchildren and another due in November.  I'm amazed to hear you have Jane and Philips death certificates was it true Philip died of pneumonia - how old was Jane when she died and what did she die of?  You seem to know much more than I do.  My grandmother told me lots of little tales of when she was younger but I was just a kid and not so interested then.  She did spend some time back in Ireland on the family farm to recuperate from pernicious anaemia and by all accounts the family was quite 'well to do' - my husband laughs about it all when I say I married beneath myself it's the family joke! Here's hoping you get this message and it won't be long before we can chat again.
Best wishes
Kathy

[CGore]

Hi Kathy

Sorry it has yet again been a while before we make contact again.
I've been away for the summer. I tend to do family history stuff on dark winter nights.

I nearly didn't reply as your user name is too similar to 'joker'. However, you talk of James so I guess your okay.

You can contact me more securely via ancestry or genesreuntied then we can email and I'll send you lots of old photo's.

Cath.

[jen8505]

Hi Cath/Kathy,
I hope you read this message.  I just came across your posts while searching for Patrick Fogarty.  I am the great great granddaughter of Patrick Fogarty and Jessie Hughes.  They had Jessie Fogarty who married Henry Tedford. They also had a son called Henry Tedford who was my grandad. Unfortunately my grandad passed away in 2001 aged 67 and he didnt really speak to his family so I can't find out any information.  I hit a brick wall at Philip Fogarty and Jane Parkinson but you have both given me something to work on.
Jenna

By the way, we now live on the Wirral too

[momo22]

Hi

My husband's paternal grt grandparents are Phillip Fogarty and Jane Parkinson. I have the marriage cert that gives their fathers but obviously some of you know lots more. Would be great to find out where they came from

Karen

[CGore]

Hi Karen,

Sorry you have had to wait for a reply. As you can see from the posting dates I don't visit this site very often.

I've had a bit of a break from the Fogarty family to concentrate on the Gore's.

I've got lots of BMD certs for the fogarty family, census returns and photo's. Some of these came from the Telford line who have been very helpful. I've written a family history as we know it from Jane and Patrick's arrival in Liverpool up to their son Patrick's death in 1915 on the Somme.

What is your connection and do you have any stories or photo's that could help solve the mystery of where in Tipperary our Fogarty descendants came from.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Regards.

Cath.