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Re: Robert Rice - who is he? *COMPLETED*
« Reply #36 on: Monday 06 February 17 04:13 GMT (UK) »
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BRADBURY - Nottingham
ROBERT RICE - New Zealand
ELIZA COMFORT YATES - Staffordshire, England
MACKELLAR - Scotland
FREEMAN - England
LEE - Nottingham
HINTON - Nottingham
HUTCHINSON - Nottingham
GRANT - Wick, Scotland
FRASER - Wick, Scotland
HALL - Knocknaveigh, Cavan, Ireland
ALLEN/ALLAN - Tipperary, Ireland
WILSON - Scotland
RENFREW - Scotland
WHITE - Scotland
THOMSON - Scotland

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Re: Robert Rice - who is he?
« Reply #37 on: Monday 06 February 17 04:16 GMT (UK) »
has this uploaded - I am getting error messages
BRADBURY - Nottingham
ROBERT RICE - New Zealand
ELIZA COMFORT YATES - Staffordshire, England
MACKELLAR - Scotland
FREEMAN - England
LEE - Nottingham
HINTON - Nottingham
HUTCHINSON - Nottingham
GRANT - Wick, Scotland
FRASER - Wick, Scotland
HALL - Knocknaveigh, Cavan, Ireland
ALLEN/ALLAN - Tipperary, Ireland
WILSON - Scotland
RENFREW - Scotland
WHITE - Scotland
THOMSON - Scotland

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Re: Robert Rice - who is he? *COMPLETED*
« Reply #38 on: Monday 06 February 17 04:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi  .... yes it has uploaded.   ;) 

But despite re-reading through this thread, I'm a bit puzzled as to how the document relates to your finding Robert RICE.

Can you please give the source of the document ? 

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Re: Robert Rice - who is he? *COMPLETED*
« Reply #39 on: Monday 06 February 17 04:59 GMT (UK) »
she is his mother - he is the child aged 6 - putting it up for the is other family members who have contact through this post - document on Ancestry - poor relief records  :D
Robert is the son born 1851 who I was originally looking for - his father is also called Robert.
BRADBURY - Nottingham
ROBERT RICE - New Zealand
ELIZA COMFORT YATES - Staffordshire, England
MACKELLAR - Scotland
FREEMAN - England
LEE - Nottingham
HINTON - Nottingham
HUTCHINSON - Nottingham
GRANT - Wick, Scotland
FRASER - Wick, Scotland
HALL - Knocknaveigh, Cavan, Ireland
ALLEN/ALLAN - Tipperary, Ireland
WILSON - Scotland
RENFREW - Scotland
WHITE - Scotland
THOMSON - Scotland


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Re: Robert Rice - who is he? *COMPLETED*
« Reply #40 on: Monday 06 February 17 05:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi  ... yes I figured it related to the mother and it might have been from ancestry (but it's guesswork as to "what parish" and "what county" the record is from.)

So who do you need help from ?     Or is this posted solely for the benefit of "the other family members who have contact through this post" (thread).    ???

   ~  Lu

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Re: Robert Rice - who is he?
« Reply #41 on: Monday 06 February 17 05:29 GMT (UK) »

... I would appreciate some extra eyes trying to help me decipher it. First part is where she lived, mentions her marriage date, ...
Can anyone make out what Lee ... ending with James Simpson says - looks like she married him in Dublin?
 

I don't think the word is "Lee"   ;D

I think it reads like this

>  ... "5 weeks before he died.

See Book [? might be # -  the abbrev. for "number" ? ]  294

... little of RICE ...a first husb. [husband] Jas. SIMPSON.

Paupers.  Par [? parent ]  Robt. DOYLE of  ....?... Chatham.
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Re: Robert Rice - who is he? *COMPLETED*
« Reply #42 on: Monday 06 February 17 05:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lu - there is a lot more that I haven't posted that supports this is Robert's mother - names of his siblings, names of his children (first with his wife Janet and then with his defacto Frances Ganderton nee Deeks), birth information of the children, wedding of his parents, siblings of his father, etc.
This record is from Whitechapel which is where he was in 1851 living with his parents and siblings. He returned and was in Whitechapel at the 1901 census living with his landlady who he had three children with which he named for his original children - she (Frances) then returned to her husband with Robert's children and they are all living together at the 1911 census. I'm not sure where Robert is but he is possibly in Wandsworth (jail or workhouse) - the age isn't quite right but it fits with his unreliable alcoholic personality. Robert died in Whitechapel in 1928.  Siblings and new children are backed up by the GRO which now names the mother on the search index. There is also a tree on Ancestry with his second partner further corroborating the fact of his new children. It is very evident this is Robert's mother.  The other family members can contact me for the other documentation - what I really wanted help with is deciphering the writing on the document - I can't make it all out - predominantly what I mentioned in my first post - thanks for your help  :-*
BRADBURY - Nottingham
ROBERT RICE - New Zealand
ELIZA COMFORT YATES - Staffordshire, England
MACKELLAR - Scotland
FREEMAN - England
LEE - Nottingham
HINTON - Nottingham
HUTCHINSON - Nottingham
GRANT - Wick, Scotland
FRASER - Wick, Scotland
HALL - Knocknaveigh, Cavan, Ireland
ALLEN/ALLAN - Tipperary, Ireland
WILSON - Scotland
RENFREW - Scotland
WHITE - Scotland
THOMSON - Scotland

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Re: Robert Rice - who is he? *COMPLETED*
« Reply #43 on: Monday 06 February 17 05:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi ... all good ... thanks for the explanation.   

Just that it was an old thread with no activity for a couple of years, and as I'd helped on the earlier portion of the thread, was curious to know what had transpired in the meantime.   
Obviously you've been busy digging further ... and have come up with some great results.   
Well done.   :)

   ~  Lu

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Re: Robert Rice - who is he? *COMPLETED*
« Reply #44 on: Monday 06 February 17 05:57 GMT (UK) »
Further to my Reply 41   ... "See Book 294"  :

Seems it might be a reference to possible earlier dealings with Mary Anne RICE (or DOYLE or maybe SIMPSON)  ???

   ~  Lu