Author Topic: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 6)  (Read 52649 times)

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 6)
« Reply #108 on: Tuesday 17 August 10 19:18 BST (UK) »
Sincere Condolances Steven, for you and your family. Daisy Loo
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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 6)
« Reply #109 on: Tuesday 17 August 10 19:39 BST (UK) »
My condolences to your family Steven and particularly to your mum, and a prayer said for your nan and your family.

I'm so pleased that your nan knew Nat's diary was being enjoyed by many of us, I bet she knew more about goings on than you ever dreamed she did.
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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 6)
« Reply #110 on: Tuesday 17 August 10 19:50 BST (UK) »
So sorry to hear about your Nan - please give my regards and condolences to your Mum - I lost my 85 yr old dad in Jan after a long illness and know how hard it can be - both to see them suffer and then to lose them
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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 6)
« Reply #111 on: Tuesday 17 August 10 21:46 BST (UK) »
First, my sympathies to Steven on the death of his Nan.
Second, replying to Deb, The cemetery officials told me that although there was room for four burials only three had taken place. i.e. Sarah & the two Nathaniels.
Third replying to Drykid, I had a look at the book today as it is some years since I had seen it.    It has been severely damaged by damp at some stage and the pages have been mounted on card to save further deterioration.   It starts with some accounts from 1816 on the first five pages.    Then pages six to 43 were blank when NB bought it and the bulk of the diary is on these.   Pages 44 onwards have further accounts from 1797.    There was some room on pages 44 & 45 and NB wrote entries on these.  Clearly NB bought it second hand as it dates to before his birth!    As you can see from the picture of Steven it is in large format, somewhat bigger than A4.    A book like this would have been quite expensive new as paper was still largely hand made I believe. 


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 6)
« Reply #112 on: Tuesday 17 August 10 21:50 BST (UK) »
Did anyone manage to follow the STANGROOMS down?
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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 6)
« Reply #113 on: Tuesday 17 August 10 22:12 BST (UK) »
I've just read one of the articles that Shaun linked to on Google books click here, which included this paragraph:

"“An old person says that Margaret married a solider, or dragoon, who was present at the skirmish of Muirdykes, in 1685, fought between the Royalists, headed by Lord Ross, and Covenanters led by Sir John coch4ran and Sir Patrick Hume of Polwart. The Muirdykes is within the parish of Lochwinnoch, about a mile from the Risk. The dragoon, with his wife, proceeded to England, where he died – Margaret, at length finding an asylum in a workhouse. The authority for this tradition is ignorant of all dates. She states that “Margaret married after the battle of Muirdykes;” but having been born in 1601, it follows that she was 84 years of age in 1685. The dragoon, however, may have taken a whim into his head to marry a lively old woman.”  :o

It seems the dragoon had something in common, then, with Nat in liking older women!!! But if Margaret was in fact born in 1660, then she would have been 25 in 1685, which is a much more likely age to have married a dragoon.

NB at the top of this entry her name is spelled ‘Paton’ rather than ‘Patten’ could be a variant to check?

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 6)
« Reply #114 on: Tuesday 17 August 10 22:20 BST (UK) »
Did anyone manage to follow the STANGROOMS down?

I think  I did -will look for the post and let you know.

Here it is - I do have a full version with the living people if you want that just pm me with your email

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,469736.msg3314757.html#msg3314757

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 6)
« Reply #115 on: Tuesday 17 August 10 23:06 BST (UK) »
ah N :)  I had the same thought as you, and thought I'd try and trace the descendants.  I only found one possible Living Stangroom, from Walter B Stangroom.  You've done all the hard work though :)

The living Stangroom married, and I have two possible children for her.

Did you PM Steven the info?  And did you manage to trace any of the other branches?
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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 6)
« Reply #116 on: Tuesday 17 August 10 23:29 BST (UK) »
Yes I did - have it on my other computer - pm me your email and I will let you ahve the unedited version.

I think we're all obsessed don't you - my husband is convinced that half my mind is in 19th century London most of the time between Nathaniel and some research I've been doing for a friend of mine...........same areas of London !! life was much simpler in some ways then !

Steven has had the info and has put it on a family tree; you;re welcome to a copy of that.

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