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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 6)
« Reply #99 on: Tuesday 17 August 10 11:33 BST (UK) »
Aw! I'm slightly less impressed now!  ;D

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 6)
« Reply #100 on: Tuesday 17 August 10 14:54 BST (UK) »
I couldn't see a birth/baptism for either a Margaret Gibson or Patten between (a broad) 1590 and 1660 in Renfrew. Of course the maiden name may be incorrect or she may even have another given name ...  :-\ There are a couple of Margaret Gibson's born much later. All we know for sure is that Margaret died 26th June 1739. I think if we assume that she was more like 60 to 80 years old rather than 136, when she died, then there are a couple of Margaret Gibsons born between 1660 and 1679.  :-\

Anyhow, the good news is that there appears to be some inkling of truth in one thing -  there IS a place by the Loch opposite Lochwinnoch called Townhead of Risk and another simply called Risk. Both look like nothing more than farmsteads. (Ordnance Survey map shows both but google maps doesn't) It's feasible that one of them was "the Risk" where Margaret is said to have been born.

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 6)
« Reply #101 on: Tuesday 17 August 10 15:18 BST (UK) »
Dear all,

I am glad you enjoyed my diary entry. My wife really did paint a kitchen cabinet yesterday. It belonged to my great grandparents (not NB's side) and dates from the 1940s. She has re-painted it from yellow to the colour blue I remember is as a  child. However, the truth is that I do not keep a diary although I am considering doing so for next year.

It was super to visit the grave. Sadly, clearing of ivy from the grave (some recent) has damaged quite a bit of inscription but I could make out a few bits, including the start and finish of the two Nathaniel Brycesons under Sarah Bryceson. I am curious about three things: 1) the fact that Sarah's age ast 64 does not tally with her age from other records (unless my maths is very bad); 2) the start of a word "Disi...." under Nat Snr; and 3) the start of the word "Eli...." under Nat Jnr. There is little point clearing the grave further as it is in a natural/wild area of the cemetery (a huge place by the way of nearly 200 acres). What would NB have made of that!

The graffitti at Greenford was old. One inscription said 1612! I shall post photos soon but my laptop is dead at present so I am using another until it is fixed. NB said his inscription was on a red floor tile. These are still there but the graffiti may have worn with time. I have e-mailed the vicar and mentioned the connection and asked for local help in searching further but I doubt we will find it. Faint marks are visible on some red tiles but nothing legible. Should I offer compensation in any case?

My Mum was unable to log-on before but I helped her do that when I was with her last week. Sadly, on her birthday her Mum and my Nan died from complications following an operation so this is a sad time for us, especially my Mum. My Nan, Stella was born Bryceson, as was her younger sister, my great aunt Truda. As far as we are aware (i.e. unless we find some descendants of Nat Jnr or John Bryceson, my great great grandfather's older brothers) Truda is the last of NB's descendants to be born Bryceson. She lives in supported acccommodation as she has mental health difficulties at times and had no children.

I am very glad that my Nan got to hear about the diary's serialisation before she died. I was always anxious about her reading the raunchier parts (although she was not a prude by any means) but she was too ill to follow the diary on 9th August and died the next day. Please remember her and our family in your thoughts and prayers.

Peace to all,

Steven.

 

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 6)
« Reply #102 on: Tuesday 17 August 10 15:43 BST (UK) »
I'm thinking of you, your mother, your lovely nan Stella, and all your family, Steven. I'm so sorry you're going through this hard time. How wonderful, though, that your nan lived to know how many of us are enjoying her great grandfather's diary. May she rest in peace.


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 6)
« Reply #103 on: Tuesday 17 August 10 16:51 BST (UK) »
I'm so very sorry to read of your loss Steven, my thoughts are with you and your family.

Carole
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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 6)
« Reply #104 on: Tuesday 17 August 10 17:56 BST (UK) »
Dear Steven

I, too, am very sad to hear of the passing of your Nan. I will keep you, your Mum and family in my prayers.

God Bless!

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Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 6)
« Reply #105 on: Tuesday 17 August 10 18:02 BST (UK) »
Steven

re Sarah's age

on the censuses she is bc 1826, Barnet and dies in Dec q 1890, Islington so the inscription seems to be correct ... ie: aged 64   :)

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 6)
« Reply #106 on: Tuesday 17 August 10 18:38 BST (UK) »
I've been going around in my mind what the words may be under both Nathaniel names on the headstone.

Nathaniel Jnr, it seems had one child ...Ethel Elizabeth Bryceson b 1882. She married John Edmund Waterson in 1913. I wonder if she may have been buried with them?

ie: ELI inder Nat jnr = Ethel ELIzabeth Bryceson Waterson

I wonder where Annie (Stone) Bryceson, Nat jnr's wife was buried?

deb ...   ;D thinking
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 6)
« Reply #107 on: Tuesday 17 August 10 18:58 BST (UK) »
From FreeBMD:

Deaths Sep 1846 
 
Wetherell  Charles   
Malling 
5 / 296


a pic of Sir Charles

Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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