1863 Thoms Directory of Dublin lookup please

[myluck!]

I can help you out here - as tambour muslin brings Jane Austin to mind!!

At the height of its popularity in Europe between 1780 to 1850, fine flowing muslin gowns, net wedding veils and scarves were embroidered, as the Napoleonic Wars made it difficult to obtain fashionable French lace.

It was worked with a hook, an ‘ari’ in India, and in the West, a ‘tambour hook’, like a sewing machine needle turned into a crochet hook which was placed inside a wooden holder.

A fine fabric – cambric, muslin or netting – was placed drum tight in a free standing embroidery hoop. The right hand held the tambour needle whilst the left hand, below the work, held the thread. The needle worked through the fabric and created a continuous line of chain stitches.

Is believed to be of eastern origin, worked in China, Persia, Turkey and India as early as the 1300s. The technique reached Europe about the mid 1700s and was referred to as ‘tambouring’ from the French ‘tambour’ for drum, a forerunner of the modern tambourine. Named after the drum shaped frame on which it was worked.

[shanew147]

thank you myluck!... learn something new everyday here!

The entries for Cochrane and Inglis and Robert also appear in Skerries in 1848 - see : http://roots.swilson.info/towns1848/img/sker1.html

and Thom's 1862 shows an entry for John  :

  21 D'Olier Street, John Cochrane & Sons,
    sewed muslin manufacturers, and embroidery printers



Shane

[myluck!]

absolutely!!
Mrs. Grant used a tambour frame in "Mansfield Park" by Jane Austin and it stuck in my head!!

[shanew147]

not much call for tambour frames in my choice of reading - Frederick Forsyth and the like. Just as well we have some educated people on here  !



Shane

[shanew147]

Thom's 1863 :

  Robert Cochrane, sewed muslin manufacturer, Skerries
  Samuel A. Cochrane, manfacturer, 21 D'Olier st.
     res. Ravindon, Leinster Rd. West, Rathmines
  S.A. Cochrane esq., 71 Harold's Cross
 
the Skerries listing has Robert on Strand Street as  'sewed muslin manufacturer, and boat owner'

The city street listing shows the Cochrane address at 21 D'Olier Street as 'sewed muslin manufacturer and embroidery printers'


Shane

[shanew147]

going back in time.... 1840 (Pettigrew & Oulton) :

  John Cochrane, worked muslin warehouse
   22 Marlborough Street
   res. Merrion House

No sign of any Cochranes or muslin trades on D'Olier St, and there's no separate listing for Skerries.

the 1834 directory has just one Cochrane in the Index - a Robert Cochran 'Troon Coal office', at 11 City Quay.


Shane

[cliffordcochran]

Thanks for the information! I have good information on the cochrans before 1860, but nothing between that date and 1864, when the emigrated to America. In really curious about a possible John Cochran at Skerries in 1860-1864.  Were there any Cochran or Cochranes at Skerries in Thoms 1862 directory? Thanks again for the help... I really appreciate it!

going back in time.... 1840 (Pettigrew & Oulton) :

  John Cochrane, worked muslin warehouse
   22 Marlborough Street
   res. Merrion House

No sign of any Cochranes or muslin trades on D'Olier St, and there's no separate listing for Skerries.

the 1834 directory has just one Cochrane in the Index - a Robert Cochran 'Troon Coal office', at 11 City Quay.


Shane

[shanew147]

Thanks for the information! I have good information on the cochrans before 1860, but nothing between that date and 1864, when the emigrated to America. In really curious about a possible John Cochran at Skerries in 1860-1864.  Were there any Cochran or Cochranes at Skerries in Thoms 1862 directory? Thanks again for the help... I really appreciate it!

the two directories I have closest to this date are 1863 and 1856 (see below), but remember that the details are often a little behind - as they were compiled during the year (sometime more) before the date.

The 1862 listing comes form the version online on the LibraryIreland website (see the Dublin Resources sub-forum), but this only includes city listings -so doesn't include county areas like Skerries

1856 :

  Robt. Cochrane, sewed muslin manuf., Skerries (no street mentioned)
  John Cochrane & Sons, sewed muslin manufacturers, 21 D'Olier St

and some later details :

1868 :

  Samuel A. Cochrane, sewed muslin manufacturers and pattern designer, 21 D'Olier St
   factory : 71 Harold's Cross
   res. : 80 Leinster Rd., Rathmines

  Robert Cochran, sewed muslin manufacturer
    Great Strand Street, Skerries

There's also a mentioned of these Cochranes in the summary entry for the town  : '..The embroidering of muslin is carried on here extensively; it was introduced by Messrs. Robert and Samuel Cochran in 1812...'

Robert is also listed in 1872..


Shane

[Gypsierose]

Robert and Kate Irvine also had a daughter Margaret Lilian Irvine


Name
Margaret Irvine

Father
Robert Harvey Irvine

MotherCatherine Irvine

Birth
19 Sep 1864

Baptism
6 Nov 1864 - Glasnevin, Dublin