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Railway records
« on: Wednesday 11 August 10 21:40 BST (UK) »
My great-grandfather worked on the railway at Burton Joyce.
(1865-1905). Is that on the midland railway line?
Also has anyone any experience of finding railway staff records
at the national archives? Are they available and what info might
they contain?

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Matt
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Re: Railway records
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 12 August 10 09:17 BST (UK) »

Hi Matt, yes it is on the Midland line. Do you have your grandfather on the census, as it will most likely give the job he was doing. This information will make it easier tracing records.

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Re: Railway records
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 12 August 10 17:24 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.

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matt
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Re: Railway records
« Reply #3 on: Friday 13 August 10 08:56 BST (UK) »

Hi Matt, not sure if you have seen the Midland Railway Records site? if it can't help, it may give some good pointers.

http://www.midlandrailwaystudycentre.org.uk/family.htm


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Re: Railway records
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 15 August 10 19:38 BST (UK) »
LMS records are at Kew, some earlier Midland railway staff records amongst them. Well worth a look.Having justg looked at the Midland Railway site, though it seems excellent, any records for Burton Joyce will be at Kew. However, establish your relative's occupation, if he was on the footplate it is quite feasible he lived at Burton Joyce and worked from a depot in the Nottingham area. The site seems to have these records. Good luck.
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Re: Railway records
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 15 August 10 21:24 BST (UK) »
Thanks to you both for the excellent advice.
I think I will try to get the records from the National Archives and post back on my experiences.

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Matt
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Re: Railway records
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 15 August 10 23:04 BST (UK) »

Hi Matt, out of interest, do you know his "position" in the railway at Burton Joyce?
I would guess not an engine man as to far from the nearest shed.

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Re: Railway records
« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 August 10 08:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Skewy,
From baptism records of his children he is at various times: Gatekeeper, Railway labourer, Platelayer, Ganger. His main occupation seems to have been a platelayer.

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 August 10 20:14 BST (UK) »
When you turn up the census record I think you will find that he was living in a crossing keeper's cottage, at some level crossing most likely out in the wilds. It was by no means unusual for all the adults in a family to be employed on the railway. It usually went like this; Dad would be a lengthman,or ganger, promoted from platelayer, who was responsible for ensuring his designated length of track was in a safe state, generally around 10 route miles, which he had to walk every day, fix any minor problems, ensure any more dangerous problems were signposted, and reported for attention. Mum would be the crossing keeper, opening the gates for road traffic as required. They would usually have a small holding attached to the cottage, which was tied to the job. Problems would occur when both adults had to retire, then the family was looking for accomodation. These crossings were of more importance than farm crossings where the farmer himself was responsible for opening and closing the gates to service land on both sides of the track, such crossings were usually private for the farm's use only. I don't know how many of these remain in service, but I paid out wages to crossing keepers in these circumstances as late as 1985.
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