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Nicholas Family, Ruabon 1860
« on: Wednesday 11 August 10 16:23 BST (UK) »
This is my first posting..........please be patient!!!!
I am looking for the Nicholas family from Ruabon c. 1860, particularly JANE NICHOLAS b.1842, Ruabon, D/O John Nicholas, a collier. She married EDWARD JONES of Caergwrle at Hope Parich Church 25 Aug, 1860. They had 5 children; Mary b. 1862, John b.1865, David b. 1868, Margaret b.1871 and Sarah Jane b. 1872. Mary & John were born in Cergwrle, David & Margaret were born in Stoke-on-Trent, and Sarah Jane in Ashton in Makerfield. They then returned to live in Caergwrle and I believe that sometime between Sarah Jane's birth in 1872 and the 1881 census Jane died. This is my problem - I can't find her death.....can anyone help please?!
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Caergwrle/Hope/Liverpool.........WILLIAMS

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Re: Nicholas Family, Ruabon 1860
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 11 August 10 16:28 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome!
When you say you are 'looking for them' is it just Jane Jones's death you are looking for?
You seem to have them in some censuses at least.
Let us know what you already have and what exactly you are looking for (going back, going forwards, particualr missing censuses etc) and you will find a whole army of people willing to help look!
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Re: Nicholas Family, Ruabon 1860
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 11 August 10 16:42 BST (UK) »
Thank you lizdb!!!!
Yes, it is Jane's death I am particularly looking for..........I have the rest of family, but she is a bit of an enigma!!
After Sarah Jane's birth, Jane simply disappears from records! I have Edward (her husband) in the 1881 census as a widower living with his mother (the boys all went back to mum even then it seems!) and John, David & Margaret are there also. I even have Sarah Jane in a nearby village listed as an adopted child - the family she is with has, so far, no direct link to either family.
So yes, it is her death I am keen to find!
Thank you for replying - you've made my day!!
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Wrexham/Rhosymedre/Ruabon/Montgomeryshire........NICHOLAS
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Re: Nicholas Family, Ruabon 1860
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 11 August 10 16:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Spaniel

Welcome from me too  :)

I've just been looking on the North Wales BMD for her death but it's needles and haystacks. 

What you really  need is a look up for a Caegwrle/Hope burial that might tie it down. I'll draw this to the attention of one of our members, Paul, to see if he can find it. \he has access to the Flintshire/Denbighshire records.

If you need any info on the Nicholas family in Ruabon before Jane, do ask on the Denbighshire board. I have most of the Ruabon parish records  :)

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Re: Nicholas Family, Ruabon 1860
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 11 August 10 16:56 BST (UK) »
Added info for anyone who might be helping with the death reg search - Hope/Caegwrle were in Flinshire but came under the Wrexham (Denbighshire)  registration district.

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Re: Nicholas Family, Ruabon 1860
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 11 August 10 16:59 BST (UK) »
So if all dates are spot on this would be the most likely

Jul/Aug/Sep 1877
Jane Jones age 35

Wrexham 11b 197

trouble is, as you say there are  others with an age within a year either way also dying in that period.

Ap/MAy/Jun 1876 age 35
and
Jul/Aug/Sep 1879 age 39

being the nearest others.
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Re: Nicholas Family, Ruabon 1860
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 11 August 10 17:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget,

Yes - needles and haystacks is a great way to describe it!! I've looked there too & the burial records at Hope Church & got so excited that I may have found it - but on checking at the records office it was the wrong Jane.
I've even found her parents grave in Cefn - but she's not there either!
However - a fresh pair of eyes usually sees something new so any help would be greatly appreciated.
She's my g g grandmother & I would just like to know what happened to her.......

Many thanks again - I am so pleased to have found this site!

Kind Regards,

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North Wales/Midlands/Ireland........ DUDDS
Wrexham/Rhosymedre/Ruabon/Montgomeryshire........NICHOLAS
BRYAN
SAYCE
Caergwrle/Hope/Liverpool.........WILLIAMS

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Re: Nicholas Family, Ruabon 1860
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 11 August 10 17:05 BST (UK) »
lizdb,

Thank you!! I'll chase these up.........I need to take my blinkers off I think!!

I was just concentrating on the Flintshire aspect.......

Denbighshire here I come!
North Wales/Midlands/Ireland........ DUDDS
Wrexham/Rhosymedre/Ruabon/Montgomeryshire........NICHOLAS
BRYAN
SAYCE
Caergwrle/Hope/Liverpool.........WILLIAMS

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Re: Nicholas Family, Ruabon 1860
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 15 August 10 08:09 BST (UK) »
We have 3 threads now - To avoid any further duplication of efforts please reply on the Flintshire Thread

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,474937.0.htm

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