huddersfield family history society

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Heckmondwike school BOARD, RECORDS
Kirklees GB 204 UHE 8 boxes

St James' Board School, Upper Board School and Upper Independent School registers and accounts 1871-1901


West Yorkshire Archive Service, Kirklees
Central Library
Princess Alexandra Walk
Huddersfield, HD1 2SU
01422 392636


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Pitt Brothers Est 1852 - 1885 +


Factory: Alma Foundry, Liversedge, Yorkshire.
Founders: James, Joseph, Edward & William Pitt
Machine Made:
Circular Feed 1876 1882
Princess 1883

[dobfarm]

You need Great imagination on this one

Hannah Tells Pokies over age

Pre Kids 1871 belong to Mary Jepson

1881c

Morley Tunnel

James Wood 47 Doncaster Near (Rotherham Border)
Hannah Wood 47 Walton Yorkshire(Hannah was only in Dom Service in Staincliffe)
John Wood 17 Roysten, Yorkshire, England (Near Rotherham)
James Henry Wood 13 Hunslet                                           Born 1868
Elizabeth Wood 23 Roysten, Yorkshire, England (Near Rotherham)

1 Hills Yard Leeds (Batty Yard ?? Leeds 1871 James Wood)

[heywood]

Well that doesn't match 1861  RG9; Piece: 3514; Folio: 14; Page: 21
for James re the children - they are George and Kate so don't think that's them.

I looked and looked (and looked again) for 1881 today but couldn't see them so I decided to stop.

Hopefully Ann will feel able to have another search in records.

heywood 

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Walton Golf Centre‎-
Shangri-la, Baghill Road, Tingley, Wakefield, West
Howley Hall Golf Club Walton sites on or over Morley Tunnel

Top of Soothill lane Batley

Just south of Beeston Hunsett Leeds

[dobfarm]

Well that doesn't match 1861  RG9; Piece: 3514; Folio: 14; Page: 21
for James re the children - they are George and Kate so don't think that's them.

I looked and looked (and looked again) for 1881 today but couldn't see them so I decided to stop.

Hopefully Ann will feel able to have another search in records.

heywood 

Hi Hey,

Scratching Barrel Bottom now

OK There is a need to review all or Ann needs to relook at her basic facts

Ann thinks  1866 birth year

She's going by Kates birth cert for Hannah Sykes but there were 2 Kate's born Rotherham about 1858 one married in 1881 George could be any where and we can't fit anything to this  Charlesworth family in Heckmondwicke.

IffY! Yes but cant rule it out!
 

[dobfarm]

Hi All

While I'm on a runner though wise!

Then no abode of John Henry infant in the 1871c with any direct known relo's also Let assume Hannah is up the swaney spout
with John Henry in 1871 at Batley end (Daddy a Engine tender on the  railway) of Morley Railway Tunnel and James is in some foundry at the other end in Leeds
 prob Kirkstall or Elland Road (Now football ground now) Airdale foundry near the rail line. Thus where would John Henry be born.

http://www.archives.wyjs.org.uk/documents/archives/Collections%20Guide%207.pdf

http://www.lostrailwayswestyorkshire.co.uk/Birstall%20Goods.htm    see map

http://www.lostrailwayswestyorkshire.co.uk/index.htm           Explore this website (Interesting maps)

Put 'Dewsbury railways' in Google search


Kate b 1858 is back in Rotherham 1881 as either



Marriages Mar 1881   
AIZLEWOOD  Arthur    Rotherham  9c 625   

Wood  Kate      Rotherham  9c 625   


1881c
Arthur AIZLEWOOD   Head     22   Rotherham, York, England   Filer Of Palisades (W Smith)     
 Kate AIZLEWOOD   Wife     25   Swinton, York, England   Telegraphist (C S)     
 Eliza AIZLEWOOD   Sister   UM   24   Rotherham, York, England   General Domestic Servant     
1 Alma Road Rotherham

or

1881c
George WOOD   Head     30   Rotherham, Lancashire, England   Iron Moulder     
 Mary A. WOOD   Wife    29   Heckmondwike, York, England       
 Edward E. WOOD   Son        7   Heckmondwike, York, England   Scholar     
 Annie L. WOOD   Daur        5   Heckmondwike, York, England   Scholar     
 Florence WOOD   Daur         2   Heckmondwike, York, England       
Kate  G. WOOD   Relative   U    24   Rotherham   Woollen Bl Weaver     
( Why not Sister) 

Piits Foundry In Alma Road Rotherham
Pitts Alma Foundry Heckmondwike

See Alma road with Kate AIZLEWOOD above Address

reminder  --Early days though

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Hi Hey

Another Question

Hannah Wood (Charlesworth) born say 1840 bit older than George
Hannah Wood (Sykes) Born say 1843

which is on later census 1901/11c

Marriages Dec 1865
 
Charlesworth  Hannah     Rotherham  9c 815
Wood  George             Rotherham  9c 815



poss George Dead by 1881
1881c

 Dennis CHARLESWORTH   Head   W   Male   69   Liversedge, York, England   Card Maker (S M)     
 Ann WOOD    Daur   W   Female   44   Liversedge, York, England   Housekeeper Dom    Allatt

Anne is the Key Bapt Birstall 1837 of Dennis Charlesworth in IGI
CHARLESWORTH   Son   W   Male   43   Liversedge, York, England   Card Maker (S M)     
 George H. CHARLESWORTH   Son   U   Male   33   Liversedge, York, England   Farmer     
 Frederick CHARLESWORTH   Son   U   Male   30   Liversedge, York, England   Card Maker (S M)     
 William WOOD   Grandson      Male   12   Liversedge, York, England   Scholar     
 Benjamin LEWSEY   Serv   U   Male   40   Huddersfield, York, England   Farm Servant (Ag Lab)     

Hightown Liversedge, York, England

or George Alive 1881
1871c
John Charlesworth     51, Fishmonger
Mary Jane Charlesworth    40
James Charlesworth    18
Henry Charlesworth    15
John Charlesworth    12
Edward Charlesworth    10
Charles Charlesworth    4
Mary Ann Charlesworth    25
Hannah Charlesworth    20
Ann Charlesworth    8
Charles Drew    50, brother, Norfolk
George Drew    45, brother, Norfolk
George Wood    20, son in law, iron moulder, Rotherham
Kate Wood    14, daughter, Rotherham

1881c
George WOOD   Head     30   Rotherham, Lancashire, England  Iron Moulder     
 Mary A. WOOD   Wife    29   Heckmondwike, York, England       
 Edward E. WOOD   Son        7   Heckmondwike, York, England   Scholar     
 Annie L. WOOD   Daur        5   Heckmondwike, York, England   Scholar     
 Florence WOOD   Daur         2   Heckmondwike, York, England       
Kate G. WOOD   Relative    U    24   Rotherham   Woollen Bl Weaver     

[dobfarm]

I have to agree with everyone that Ann needs to try for a birth reg 1871-1873.

Of course there's always the possibility that he wasn't registered because although it was compulsory it was up to the registrar to seek out the births before 1874

This is an extract detailing this.

Originally, the registrars had to travel around and visit the people who had an event and make a note of the details. A new Act of 1874 removed this and it was up to the people to visit the local registrar office to record the event.


This is another possibility for the birth.

Births Mar 1872   

Wood    John         Dewsbury    9b   604

Christine

Its 'A' Gamble- Ann

This or the 1871 John Wood GRO

Think that it from me ! I can't better Christines advice.

Maybe Hey would link the last Comment. To Sum up!

Dave

[heywood]

Hi Dave,

my summary is .... I haven't a clue 

I am very confused re the Charlesworth/Wood connection and I think the thread has become clogged with information 

If I recall, Ann has Hannah Sykes and James Wood- marrriage cert.
She has John H's certificates with father James.

Charlesworth census- is separate from Wood.

I can only think that if Ann is still with us (and she will have to be very strong to be so at this stage  ) that she applies for those couple of certificates around 1871-1873 and discounts/ finds out re those Johns.

Sometimes you just have to go through that process of elimination.
Finally, it does seem  that Ann finds this process quite daunting so the  registrations that we have already quoted  could be the start of a new search and to be honest, my opinion is that we have provided as much info as we can (maybe too much) at the moment.

I do hope that Ann comes back and reads this and if you want any short, clear  ( ) pointers Ann, please just ask. If you do find out, please, please let us know the outcome. 

heywood
Well done Dave, for the wealth of info you have provided about the area.