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Re: huddersfield family history society
« Reply #90 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 18:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Dave,
well if they were giving marks for effort and enthusiasm - you would be A*.  ;)

In 1871 - James is boarding ar 2 Batty's Yard Leeds  (West) so no area shown.

Somewhere back in the thread, someone (apologies) has mentioned a birth for John Wood? in same quarter as the marriage or at least the quarter after which could be a good bet.
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Re: huddersfield family history society
« Reply #91 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 18:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Hey

Would not put all my thinking on line normally but Chistine asked Ann to put info on line for all to read.

I'm trying to think which parish around Batley-Morley-Leeds area on the Dewsbury Leeds rail line where John Henry might have been baptized

He's 8 years old in 1881 and he's not with sister Kate or brother George.
If James is dead by 1881 c then he's with Hannah as 1891c maybe a workhouse at Staincliffe or Rotherham maybe or Domestic service.

Jack H Wood
or Just Jack or Jon
Jonny- Jimmy (Mistranscribed) -Johnny Etc.



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« Reply #92 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 18:35 BST (UK) »
I honestly think we have come to the end of our searching. It's up to Ann to perhaps ask for a different search- at registry office not on rootchat -  ::)

Not sure which ones she has asked for but I think this is the one I think I meant  ::)
1871
June quarter : Wood  John     Dewsbury  9b 559

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(hoping to now retire from this until Ann comes back with some sort of comment.

Still waiting for any clues re witnesses at John/Charlotte marriage.
However, they were to point us to him and I think we have him now in 1881 anyway.
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Re: huddersfield family history society
« Reply #93 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 19:15 BST (UK) »
This 1871 census is complicated.  It appears to have George and Kate, John's children born to his wife, Mary Jepson/Wood. 

All Charlesworth's born Heckmondwike.  Living: High St, Heckmondwike.

John Charlesworth     51, Fishmonger
Mary Jane Charlesworth    40
James Charlesworth    18
Henry Charlesworth    15
John Charlesworth    12
Edward Charlesworth    10
Charles Charlesworth    4
Mary Ann Charlesworth    25
Hannah Charlesworth    20
Ann Charlesworth    8
Charles Drew    50, brother, Norfolk
George Drew    45, brother, Norfolk
George Wood    20, son in law, iron moulder, Rotherham
Kate Wood    14, daughter, Rotherham

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 Dennis CHARLESWORTH   Head   W   Male   69   Liversedge, York, England   Card Maker (S M)     
 Ann WOOD   Daur   W   Female   44   Liversedge, York, England   Housekeeper (Dom)     
 Allatt CHARLESWORTH   Son   W   Male   43   Liversedge, York, England   Card Maker (S M)     
 George H. CHARLESWORTH   Son   U   Male   33   Liversedge, York, England   Farmer     
 Frederick CHARLESWORTH   Son   U   Male   30   Liversedge, York, England   Card Maker (S M)     
 William WOOD   Grandson      Male   12   Liversedge, York, England   Scholar     
 Benjamin LEWSEY   Serv   U   Male   40   Huddersfield, York, England   Farm Servant (Ag Lab)     

Hightown Liversedge, York, England
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« Reply #94 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 19:22 BST (UK) »
I honestly think we have come to the end of our searching. It's up to Ann to perhaps ask for a different search- at registry office not on rootchat -  ::)

Not sure which ones she has asked for but I think this is the one I think I meant  ::)
1871
June quarter : Wood  John     Dewsbury  9b 559

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(hoping to now retire from this until Ann comes back with some sort of comment.

Still waiting for any clues re witnesses at John/Charlotte marriage.
However, they were to point us to him and I think we have him now in 1881 anyway.

Hi Hey

Ann is reading so just keep adding to the thread anybody over time somthing may come to light.
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« Reply #95 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 19:29 BST (UK) »
I honestly think we have come to the end of our searching. It's up to Ann to perhaps ask for a different search- at registry office not on rootchat -  ::)

Not sure which ones she has asked for but I think this is the one I think I meant  ::)
1871
June quarter : Wood  John     Dewsbury  9b 559

best wishes
heywood

(hoping to now retire from this until Ann comes back with some sort of comment.

Still waiting for any clues re witnesses at John/Charlotte marriage.
However, they were to point us to him and I think we have him now in 1881 anyway.
I'll give it a week or so as abapt entry Morley-Heartshead above high town. Liversedge

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Re: huddersfield family history society
« Reply #96 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 20:35 BST (UK) »

I have to agree with everyone that Ann needs to try for a birth reg 1871-1873.

Of course there's always the possibility that he wasn't registered because although it was compulsory it was up to the registrar to seek out the births before 1874

This is an extract detailing this.

Originally, the registrars had to travel around and visit the people who had an event and make a note of the details. A new Act of 1874 removed this and it was up to the people to visit the local registrar office to record the event.


This is another possibility for the birth.

Births Mar 1872   

Wood    John         Dewsbury    9b   604

Christine

Mallinson- Lepton, Huddersfield
Walker, Smith, Slater, Blacker - Farnley Tyas, Huddersfield
Claybourne/Clayburn - Norton Doncaster
Birkenshaw/Birkinshaw - Doncaster
Hall - Skelbrooke, Doncaster
Bisby - Campsall, Doncaster
Hemsworth - Doncaster

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Re: huddersfield family history society
« Reply #97 on: Thursday 19 August 10 09:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Christine,

Did they have apdoption ( ie;- at say a 10 year old child! if Hannah could not have children) them days ?

With no Bapt, Birth or 1881c records of John Henry (Wood ?)

Just a thought
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Re: huddersfield family history society
« Reply #98 on: Thursday 19 August 10 20:31 BST (UK) »

There were no legal adoptions until the 1920's.

I think John and Hannah and maybe James are either very badly transcribed in 1881 or are missing from the census.

I have a couple of families I have been unable to find in various years.

It's now up to Ann to come back to the thread.

Christine
Mallinson- Lepton, Huddersfield
Walker, Smith, Slater, Blacker - Farnley Tyas, Huddersfield
Claybourne/Clayburn - Norton Doncaster
Birkenshaw/Birkinshaw - Doncaster
Hall - Skelbrooke, Doncaster
Bisby - Campsall, Doncaster
Hemsworth - Doncaster

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