huddersfield family history society

[Christine in Portugal]

I received another pm from Ann late last night and she seems to be having some problems getting back to this posting.

Hopefully she'll find her way back now.

I'm not sure if this birth reg has already been posted but wondered if this could be him as he was 19 in 1891.

Births Jun 1871

Wood    John         Dewsbury    9b   559

Christine

[dobfarm]

No one else is having problems with this website also Rootschat admin will help with this!, but there something strange about all this thread posters approach as was pointed out to me last night by other members by PM and  leaving notes on the GRO FreeBMD's website of possible register events.

Sometimes its a case some people will do anything not to buy certificates??  was again  pointed out.

Most people pay for their immediate Grandparents GRO's 

These weblinks will resolve this issue

http://www.archives.wyjs.org.uk/wyjs-archives-collections-guides.asp

http://www.kirklees.gov.uk/answers/register-office/certificates.shtml    can leave notes on this website as well but cost!! ie-! It use to be about £3 to £4 for dud (Wrong) certificates the crux of this issue for us all. 

We have gone behond all help we can give to normal requests or reasonable expectation of us.

DOBFARM

[heywood]

Hi Libby

Off the record and only my opinion!

James Married Hannah 1871 and they moved to Rotherham, they were left off the 1871 census in transit time of moving having no fixed abode as a new married couple. John Henry maybe conceived before the marriage in 1871, was born in this transion time'
Cocking and Batley carr Prove
Thanks to everybody  pp Ann
Dave

I think my reply 44 - has Hannah in 1871- it was before the marriage I think so she is still single. If that birth of a John Wood in June quarter 1871 is correct- it would fit as they perhaps got married to make the birth legitimate. If the marriage took place in church (can't remember if this has been posted) the baptism may be at the same place.
Ann  needs to apply for a certificate stating the parents names.

[heywood]

1871 RG10; Piece: 4585; Folio: 24; Page: 2

Hannah Sykes 23 yrs b Batley Carr - is a general servant in Batley -with a family called Iveson/Ineson - he comes from Heckmondwike!
Marriage of Hannah and James Wood -June quarter 1871 Dewsbury

This was my post 44 re Hannah earlier in thread.

I think this is James in 1871

 RG10; Piece: 4564; Folio: 140; Page: 29
James Wood 40 yrs widower Iron Moulder b Rotherham
boarding in Leeds

even though I have had a pm from Ann, I have posted here because of the interest and hard work  by you all.
heywood 

[dobfarm]

Hi Hey

One has to respect peoples wishes as when they have paid for the certificate! they don't want all unsundry benefiting by it hence won't put on line info on them etc.

This info is from a public record free to all and not from a GRO

Birstall Parish register

Page 161 event number 333

Marriages

James Wood -  age 41- Widower- OCC Iron Moulder- Abode Heckmondwicke -father John Wood Fathers Occ Cordwinder.

Hannah Sykes -age 31 -spinster- Occ (Blank)-Abode Staincliffe  Batley carr
Father Joseph Sykes Father Occ Engine Tinder (Tinderman)

James Wood signed his name
Hannah Sykes left her Mark
In press of (Witnesses)

Richard Goohall
James Robuck

Mr (Unreadable first name) Kemp curate

[Christine in Portugal]

No one else is having problems with this website also Rootschat admin will help with this!, but there something strange about all this thread posters approach as was pointed out to me last night by other members by PM and  leaving notes on the GRO FreeBMD's website of possible register events.

Sometimes its a case some people will do anything not to buy certificates??  was again  pointed out.


DOBFARM

In Ann's pm to me I understood her to mean she hadn't found her way back to this query but she must have if she's sending pm's to other people.

It does appear that she does have certificates so not a case of not wanting to buy them. I just don't understand why she doesn't reply on here.

It's much easier than sending pm's as everyone involved can see the details.

Christine

[heywood]

Hi Christine,
I think in the beginning (and from looking at Ann's other thread) that I thought she had John H but then was 'picking' his ancestry from censuses. Additonally, my thoughts were that he may have invented a father James on his marriage (s).
However, as it has transpired that doesn't seem to be the case.
Now I have come to realise that Ann needs some sort of birth confirmation re John H and as it is not apparently in the records because of the common name, then perhaps a baptism may show up because that would have his parents.
Whether this is a money saving  exercise or there is a genuine need of help, we don't know, because she is not returning to this thread to acknowledge  the very hard work everyone has put in to help her.
I can understand that people do find it difficult to find a post when they are newcomers to rootschat, however, the fact that she is sending PMs to posters indicates that she is reading this thread 
It would seem more difficult to me for a novice to send a PM, than press the reply button.
As I have posted earlier, I am quite happy to think that Hannah and James are in 1871 at separate addresses, not yet being married so the easiest solution would be for Ann to apply for a birth registration using the parents names and James' occupation as references.
Unfortunately, because we are receiving these odd pm communications, it is detracting from the situation and making Ann seem discourteous and trying of my (maybe 'our') patience.
best wishes
heywood

[dobfarm]

Hi Christine,

Fact is we have helped and she'll have something if only to back up what info she has. This post will help other researchers of Wood's? hence carried on with also helping our selves to keep learning as we go! so nothing lost.

One phone call to Dewsbury reg office should resolve this John Henry Wood unknown date of birth 1870-1875 ish by anyone concerned one way or another.

Take care

Best regards

Dave

[dobfarm]

Hi Christine,
I think in the beginning (and from looking at Ann's other thread) that I thought she had John H but then was 'picking' his ancestry from censuses. Additonally, my thoughts were that he may have invented a father James on his marriage (s).
However, as it has transpired that doesn't seem to be the case.
Now I have come to realise that Ann needs some sort of birth confirmation re John H and as it is not apparently in the records because of the common name, then perhaps a baptism may show up because that would have his parents.
Whether this is a money saving  exercise or there is a genuine need of help, we don't know, because she is not returning to this thread to acknowledge  the very hard work everyone has put in to help her.
I can understand that people do find it difficult to find a post when they are newcomers to rootschat, however, the fact that she is sending PMs to posters indicates that she is reading this thread 
It would seem more difficult to me for a novice to send a PM, than press the reply button.
As I have posted earlier, I am quite happy to think that Hannah and James are in 1871 at separate addresses, not yet being married so the easiest solution would be for Ann to apply for a birth registration using the parents names and James' occupation as references.
Unfortunately, because we are receiving these odd pm communications, it is detracting from the situation and making Ann seem discourteous and trying of my (maybe 'our') patience.
best wishes
heywood

Hi Hey

If Mary did die in 1865 prob child birth also she thought that John was born in 1865 again prob From John Henry's age on his two marriages. Wortley is on the Huddersfield road above Rotherham & Chapletown and the fact that a John Henry Wood birth is in Wortley in 1865 and Ann was very positive about 1866ish maybe the route of her concerns as Mary Jepson born 1811 Wortley maybe the key? being John H (or Hannah) used Dewsbury as his birth place as past forgot of Mary's life. I would not us James Birth age 41 as a yardstick 1871 marriage Birstall. Wortley sits on the valley of steel foundries of Sheffield and Rotherham as too knowledge of the none existant steel industry of Heckmondwicke or Dewsbury suggests this but that another story past tense!