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Re: huddersfield family history society
« Reply #45 on: Monday 16 August 10 19:04 BST (UK) »
Thanks Christine for posting the marriage details.

Heywood,  you may be right, I'll bow out for now. 

If a baptism could be found that would be great, Dob's  ;)

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« Reply #46 on: Monday 16 August 10 21:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Hey

One has to respect peoples wishes as when they have paid for the certificate! they don't want all unsundry benefiting by it hence won't put on line info on them etc.

This info is from a public record free to all and not from a GRO

Birstall Parish register

Page 161 event number 333

Marriages

James Wood -  age 41- Widower- OCC Iron Moulder- Abode Heckmondwicke -father John Wood Fathers Occ Cordwinder.

Hannah Sykes -age 31 -spinster- Occ (Blank)-Abode Staincliffe  Batley carr
Father Joseph Sykes Father Occ Engine Tinder (Tinderman)

James Wood signed his name
Hannah Sykes left her Mark
In press of (Witnesses)

Richard Goohall
James Robuck

Mr (Unreadable first name) Kemp curate


In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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« Reply #47 on: Monday 16 August 10 21:43 BST (UK) »
The ages at marriage don't add up with census details found.  It appears he underestimated, and she overestimated, maybe to make the age difference more respectable?  As census records say he would have been about 44, and she about 25.

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« Reply #48 on: Monday 16 August 10 21:54 BST (UK) »
Definitely seems the right marriage, James' two children from his first marriage were in Heckmondwike in 1871.  So, I believe a baptism search is the way forward.  It's possible John Henry was registered as plain John; a date of birth would help pin down which John Wood he is.


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« Reply #49 on: Monday 16 August 10 23:19 BST (UK) »
Hi Libby

It even more vague in the archives-I have checked all the C of E Birstall Heckmondwicke Liversedge-Staincliffe-Batley carr-Batley- Robertown and Dewsbury also Nonconformist Chapels covering Years 1870-1875 and nothing also very few Wood families

Poll books are showing nothing and all I could find was  Hannah Sykes of
Central St Staincliffe in Batley Poll book 1868.

Its as though James came up from Rotherham met Hannah, married her and she by census had John Henry and shot they off back to Rotherham.

Its one for Sherlock Thingy and Dr Watson

We tried but time to call it a day in the by absence of interest in aforesaid.

Regards Dave

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« Reply #50 on: Monday 16 August 10 23:33 BST (UK) »
This is the best we can do as a proof of John birth to Help Ann. and Roy?


1901 census  RG13/ Piece 4396/ Folio 76/ Page: 26.   Address: 7, Vine St, Masborough.

Allan Cocking     60
Mary Cocking    62
Allan Cocking    24
Joseph Cocking    17
Hannah Wood    50,  general servant domestic, born Batley Carr.

Hannah 66 in 1911c

Allan Cocking is the father of Charlotte, John Henry Wood's wife.

Marriage of John Henry Wood to Charlotte Cocking 9c 840 Marriages Dec 1893 Rotherham

Birstall Parish register

Page 161 event number 333

Marriages

James Wood -  age 41- Widower- OCC Iron Moulder- Abode Heckmondwicke -father John Wood Fathers Occ Cordwinder.

Hannah Sykes -age 31 -spinster- Occ (Blank)-Abode Staincliffe Batley carr
Father Joseph Sykes Father Occ Engine Tinder (Tinderman)

James Wood signed his name
Hannah Sykes left her Mark
In press of (Witnesses)

Richard Goohall
James Robuck

Mr (Unreadable first name) Kemp curate

Poll books are showing nothing and all I could find was  Hannah Sykes of
Central St Staincliffe in Batley Carr Poll book 1868

1891c

Clough Rd, Masbrough, Rotherham.
Hannah Wood, head, wid, 35, b. Dewsbury,
John H. Wood, son, s, 19, Brick Maker, b. Dewsbury.
Henry Sharpe, lodger, s, 42, General Labourer, b. Ivison
RG12/3849/94/22

Hannah is still living with the Cocking's in 1911 where her age is stated as 66.
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« Reply #51 on: Monday 16 August 10 23:45 BST (UK) »
Dob's,

I know how thorough you are when searching, so if you didn't find a baptism - it ain't there.

If he was baptised, it must have been in the Rotherham area.  Birth's of course, had to be registered in the district the child was born, therefore, Dewsbury.  I can only deduce he was registered as John Wood, not John Henry.

Ann, have you had a search done for Dewsbury births 1871 - 1874?  If not, that has to be your next step.

Good luck, Ann.  He can't hide forever, there must be a birth reg, try narrowing your search to plain John Wood.


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« Reply #52 on: Monday 16 August 10 23:54 BST (UK) »
Timescale: remind me when did James' wife Mary die, and where?


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« Reply #53 on: Tuesday 17 August 10 00:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Libby

Off the record and only my opinion!

James Married Hannah 1871 and they moved to Rotherham, they were left off the 1871 census in transit time of moving having no fixed abode as a new married couple. John Henry maybe conceived before the marriage in 1871, was born in this transion time and never got register as did my Granddad as my  Gt granddad  moved to Scarecliffe in Derbyshire from Wales village in Yorkshire around my granddads birth time as he never got registered.

Cocking and Batley carr Prove

Thanks to everybody  pp Ann

Dave
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